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cabnz
08-07-07, 04:03 PM
Sorry if this has already been posted but it looks like the new hot fix's maybe official.

Here http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=3FB80BB9-D832-425B-B42C-D3EB2071BBEC&displaylang=en

And here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=AE2F819D-C33D-48DB-A7E3-62EEF7C1F7C2&displaylang=en

cabnz
08-07-07, 04:20 PM
Sorry I should also add these are for 32bit and 64bit. Here are the links for the option.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=938979 32bit and 64bit

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=938194 32bit and 64bit

nekrosoft13
08-07-07, 04:33 PM
does the official patch still kills the method to disable x64 driver signing?

Electronic Punk
08-07-07, 04:36 PM
Yes, it patches that exploit.

cabnz
08-07-07, 04:37 PM
Sorry I don't know the answer to that I'm on 32bit

ekovalsky
08-07-07, 04:41 PM
file sizes are identical to the leaked patches. are there any differences or is this just the official release of what has already been available ?

nekrosoft13
08-07-07, 04:42 PM
leaked and official is excactly the same, same digital signatures

maxpaynez
08-07-07, 05:18 PM
Yes, it patches that exploit.


Exploit? I can't tell you how many issues having driver signing disabled fixes...driver signing is as bad as UAC.

Core temp, hamachi, etc, etc, etc ad nausem

cabnz
08-07-07, 05:21 PM
I was having major lockups when playing GRAW 2 getting the the 'Nvlddmkm Stopped responding' after playing for only 30 - 60 seconds but after the patches I managed to play for 5 minutes without one lockup. So far so good.

cabnz
08-07-07, 05:33 PM
Just tried FSX and still getting the 'driver stopped responding and has recovered' issue when I exit FSX.

radekhulan
08-07-07, 06:40 PM
What exactly should KB938194 and KB938979 fix?

nekrosoft13
08-07-07, 06:45 PM
What exactly should KB938194 and KB938979 fix?

You experience a long delay when you try to exit the Photos screen saver.
A memory leak occurs when you use the Windows Energy screen saver.
If User Account Control is disabled on the computer, you cannot install a network printer successfully. This problem occurs if the network printer is hosted by a Windows XP-based or a Windows Server 2003-based computer.
When you write data to an AVI file by using the AVIStreamWrite function, the file header of the AVI file is corrupted.
When you copy or move a large file, the "estimated time remaining" takes a long time to be calculated and displayed.
After you resume the computer from hibernation, it takes a long time to display the logon screen.
When you synchronize an offline file to a server, the offline file is corrupted.
If you edit an image file that uses the RAW image format, data loss occurs in the image file. This problem occurs if the RAW image is from any of the following digital SLR camera models: Canon EOS 1D
Canon EOS 1DS

After you resume the computer from hibernation, the computer loses its default gateway address.
Poor memory management performance occurs.

The screen may go blank when you try to upgrade the video driver. For more information, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
932539 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932539/) The screen may go blank when you try to upgrade the video driver on a Windows Vista-based computer
The computer stops responding, and you receive a "Display driver stopped responding and has recovered" error message. You can restart the computer only by pressing the computer's power button.
The computer stops responding or restarts unexpectedly when you play video games or perform desktop operations.
The Diagnostic Policy Service (DPS) stops responding when the computer is under heavy load or when very little memory is available. This problem prevents diagnostics from working.
The screen goes blank after an external display device that is connected to the computer is turned off. For example, this problem may occur when a projector is turned off during a presentation.
A computer that has NVIDIA G80 series graphic drivers installed stops responding.
Visual appearance issues occur when you play graphics-intensive games.
You experience poor playback quality when you play HD DVD disks or Blu-ray disks on a large monitor.
Applications that load the Netcfgx.dll component exit unexpectedly.
Windows Calendar exits unexpectedly after you create a new appointment, create a new task, and then restart the computer.
Internet Connection Sharing stops responding after you upgrade a computer that is running Microsoft Windows XP to Windows Vista and then restart the computer.
The Printer Spooler service stops unexpectedly.
You receive a "Stop 0x0000009F" error when you put the computer to sleep while a Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) connection is active.

radekhulan
08-07-07, 06:47 PM
Thank you.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=938194
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=938979

Q
08-07-07, 06:52 PM
Yes, it patches that exploit.

Exploit????

MS can't even write decent drivers for the XBOX360 controller for Windows. I've had to force XBCD drivers on x64 to get a half ass functioning controller. Now I can't even do that because of these patches to fix a plethora of other MS issues.

Bull****.

nekrosoft13
08-07-07, 06:57 PM
F8 at boot still works

but i do agree, having it disable pernamently was just so much better.

I like peerguardian and rivatuner.

radekhulan
08-07-07, 07:12 PM
After installing these hotfixes, I tried one more time 163.11, which were extremely unstable for me before, comparing to 158.45. They seem good so far..

maxpaynez
08-07-07, 08:00 PM
http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Releases+Service+Packs+for+Vista+XP+to+T esters/article8352.htm


Microsoft Releases Service Packs for Vista, XP to Testers

"According to AeroXperience, the latest build of SP1 sent to testers was labeled 6001.16549. In addition, WinBeta claims to have screenshots of SP1 which was distributed via an ISO -- 3.07GB for the 32-bit version and 4.3GB for the 64-bit version.

In addition to the SP1 information, AeroXperience also reports that Windows XP SP3 was released to testers (Build 5.1.2600.3180). The download weighs in at 350MB and supposedly fixes over 900 issues with the operating system."

AngelGraves13
08-07-07, 09:03 PM
I'll just wait then. I have the older versions of these installed. They seem to be going through many revisions lately.

DarkOneX
08-07-07, 09:36 PM
One thing I've noticed since installing these hotifxes is it takes a very long time now when I load any videos now, Media Player opens and just kinda sits there for like 10 secs before it starts playing. Kinda sux.

Also, how do I permanently disable driver signing enforcement in Vista64?

nekrosoft13
08-07-07, 09:52 PM
Also, how do I permanently disable driver signing enforcement in Vista64?

with these hotfixes you don't

DarkOneX
08-07-07, 11:01 PM
with these hotfixes you don't

Waddya mean? You mean after applying these you can't? Or you don't have to? Cause if I don't I can't get on the internets.

nekrosoft13
08-07-07, 11:41 PM
i mean you can't disable it pernamently

ekovalsky
08-08-07, 01:02 AM
There is no known way to permanently disable driver signing with Vista x64 once the patch is applied.

I do want to use Rivatuner and Peerguardian but didn't want to use F8 every time. What I did was use this command:

bcdedit /set advancedoptions Yes

which brings up the Vista load menu automatically with every boot, without having to remember to hit F8. You still have to manually select the driver signature override unfortunately.

K007
08-08-07, 07:42 AM
over 900 problems fixed....daym..

UberRN69
08-08-07, 02:16 PM
That's why as long as I'm running only 2GB, I'm still sticking with 32-Bit Vista. I tried 64-bit when I first got Vista (ordered the 64-bit disk from MS), and the driver signing requirement was driving me nuts.