Debian insight

[DiscipleDOC]

Hey boys and girls! I decided to do a new thread instead for it!

By the way...I'm installing (netinstall) the newest version of Debian on a test pc at work right now....

Grey, eg, what's your impressions....?

[grey_1]

Hey boys and girls! I decided to do a new thread instead for it!

By the way...I'm installing (netinstall) the newest version of Debian on a test pc at work right now....

Grey, eg, what's your impressions....?
So far very stable and quick. It "feels" much leaner than Ububtu.

Netinst..sweet, although I would like more choice WRT package installation, rather than just "desktop" and so on.

None of the problems I encountered with fstab or xorg that I had with others.

Not being able to sudo threw me because I'm old and forgot all about 'su' til evilghost reminded me. :p

Haven't had time to tweak yet, I'll stay up with this thread though later.

Overall thumbs up so far.

[evilghost]

See my signature and avatar :)

I find it to of quality equal and greater than Ubuntu; Ubuntu has too many nagging bugs and issues.

Of course, it's been said, if you want to be on the cutting edge prepare to bleed. Ubuntu makes me bleed.

[DiscipleDOC]

Does anyone have any http sites for my source list? I can't do ftp here at work.....

[evilghost]

Umm, these are http, and are mine ...


deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib

#Backports
deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free

[DiscipleDOC]

Umm, these are http, and are mine ...


deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib

#Backports
deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free

Thanks...works like a charm! :thumbsup:

[grey_1]

Thanks here also eg!

Whole different experience using debian. Gotta tweak some more.

[evilghost]

I GNU you would like it. I find it has all the positives experiences of Ubuntu but with a more polished professional atmosphere and less of the idiosyncratic annoyances of Ubuntu.

Don't get me wrong, Ubuntu is great, and I loved it as a transitional OS, but I like Debian much better.

[grey_1]

Lol, yes I do. i drew conclusions fro trying to install it a couple weeks ago on an older chipset and having difficulty. Now I feel I may have found my distro, probably even load up some games next week.

Know anyone wants to buy a copy of Vista? :)

[evilghost]

I love that you guys are open to suggestions and new experiences...

[DiscipleDOC]

I love that you guys are open to suggestions and new experiences...
You do know that sounded really GAY, right? :bleh:

[grey_1]

You do know that sounded really GAY, right? :bleh:
I'm not going there...lol.

This is here to stay. Even copied the man-pages to desktop so I can fry my brain more quickly. :)

Quick question on the atime patch..

My current /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/sda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
/dev/sda9 /home ext3 defaults 0 2
/dev/sda8 /tmp ext3 defaults 0 2
/dev/sda5 /usr ext3 defaults 0 2
/dev/sda6 /var ext3 defaults 0 2
/dev/sda7 none swap sw 0 0
/dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0

Would this be a correct modification?

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/sda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime,nodiratime 0 1
Thanks in Advance!

[evilghost]

LOL, you 'advanced user' you. I did one partition instead of the 'split.


/dev/sda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime,nodiratime 0 1
/dev/sda9 /home ext3 defaults,noatime,nodiratime 0 2
/dev/sda8 /tmp ext3 defaults,noatime,nodiratime 0 2
/dev/sda5 /usr ext3 defaults,noatime,nodiratime 0 2
/dev/sda6 /var ext3 defaults,noatime,nodiratime 0 2


Basically, any ext3 partition add noatime,nodiratime. I've read that nodiratime is a subset of noatime but I also read the kernel.org discussion with Linus. I'll admin I didn't man it so I just went with the suggestion. I'm not pedantic so I'm find with a small amount of unnecessary repetition if that is the case.

[grey_1]

:D
me advanced..lol!

Thanks for the reply bro. I'm loving this. Smooth, fast and stable is all I want.

[evilghost]

Glad you're pleased, I really thing Debian fills the gap quite well. Ubuntu eased my transition from Win32 and prepared me for Debian. Debian is what I think Linux should be, however, without Ubuntu I don't see the transition being so painless.

[grey_1]

Glad you're pleased, I really thing Debian fills the gap quite well. Ubuntu eased my transition from Win32 and prepared me for Debian. Debian is what I think Linux should be, however, without Ubuntu I don't see the transition being so painless.
Agreed. I finally feel I have something I can actually buckle down and learn to my hearts content. I picked up a copy of "The Linux Cookbook" by Carla Schroder, which covers alot of the basics for someone at my stage of the game.

Thanks for tossing that suggestion in a few posts back. :)

[Redeemed]

Darned penguin humpers... :p

[BashfulTux]

Thanks...works like a charm! :thumbsup:

You might want to add to this with the following for the various multimedia apps that are not included in regular Debian or that has been built with reduced features due to restrictions on distribution plus I added the non-free onto the regular sources since you have it on the backports..


deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free

#Backports
deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free

## Various Multimedia Helper Apps Mplayer, Real, w32codecs, etc.. ##
deb http://debian-multimedia.org stable main

[DiscipleDOC]

You might want to add to this with the following for the various multimedia apps that are not included in regular Debian or that has been built with reduced features due to restrictions on distribution plus I added the non-free onto the regular sources since you have it on the backports..


deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free

#Backports
deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free

## Various Multimedia Helper Apps Mplayer, Real, w32codecs, etc.. ##
deb http://debian-multimedia.org stable main


Thanks Tux! ;)

[grey_1]

I murdered it. :rolleyes:

Lol, it's how I learn. Maybe re-install later.:o

[wnd]

Don't forget to use a local mirror of Debian repository (http://www.debian.org/mirror/list) -- some of them also serve in IPv6. There also exists a tool called netselect-apt that can be used to find the fastest repository.

As for basic binary repositories of my choice,

deb http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ experimental main non-free contrib

[chunkey]

Don't forget to use a local mirror of Debian repository (http://www.debian.org/mirror/list) -- some of them also server in IPv6. There also exists a tool called netselect-apt that can be used to find the fastest repository.

As for basic binary repositories of my choice,

deb http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib
deb http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ experimental main non-free contrib


No, I don't agree with your comment about experimental & sid ;-) .
It's as worser than Ubuntu! A "single" aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade can ****** the system in no time...

[DiscipleDOC]

Is there a place that I can get the newest KDE?

[grey_1]

deb http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib

Pretty sure this is right for unstable DD. "unstable" is generally anything but that, it's the last testing repository before going into stable.

Edit your sources list then an apt-get update, should show the latest KDE.

Experimental is next. I've had a good deal of pain from there. fwiw, I'm pretty much running pure 'unstable' now, 0 problems atm.

[BashfulTux]

Is there a place that I can get the newest KDE?

You can try http://www.backports.org looks like they have version 3.5.7 built for stable which is the latest, otherwise you would need to dist-upgrade to testing or unstable to get the latest.


## Etch backports
deb http://www.backports.org/debian etch-backports main contrib non-free