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jeffmd
08-21-07, 08:32 PM
Was holding onto my 2800XP untill the advent of REAL DX10 games before I built a new computer, and with the release of bioshock, now looks to be a good time. I pretty much know I am going with an 8800 (1, while my money is very flexible with this new computer, I can't afford 2 of these monsters) for video. Looking at the CPUs, it seems like AMDs fastest, the x2 6000+, is quite a few pennies below the next step up, the core 2 6700. Combined with an AMD mobo which will cost much less, the 6000+ seems like it offers the best bang for the buck currently.

While the Quad cores seem nice, I think for the next couple of years, 2 really fast cores should be fine for games. Is there anything I'm missing about the 6000+ that makes it a less then ideal choice today?

Uberpwnage
08-21-07, 08:43 PM
Get an E6750 and a cheap P35 mobo. The E6750 is alot better choice for only about $30 more.

jeffmd
08-21-07, 08:58 PM
Any mobo suggestions? I took a look, they do seem a bit pricy over AMD boards.I of course, am a beliver of buying a really good mobo for stability reasons. I don't overclock, and will be seeking a quiet HSF for it, so all I'm looking for is stability at normal speeds, and features.

Tygerwoody
08-21-07, 09:30 PM
:rofl you put AMD and "best" in the same sentence.

jcrox
08-21-07, 09:36 PM
If you're not going to overclock at all, the 6000+ will do you just fine. I would go with a DFI board for it myself.

Zapablast05
08-21-07, 09:42 PM
I would say the 6000+ also. But if you do ever get an inkling of even overclocking, get the 5600+, it overclocks way better than the 6000+.

crainger
08-21-07, 10:02 PM
6000 isn't too bad. I mean they can be had for just over 200AUD these days.

CaptNKILL
08-21-07, 10:22 PM
I can't honestly recommend AMD for a new gaming machine.

It will do fine, I'm sure, but a Core 2 will be much better and if you ever decide to overclock, your Core 2 purchase will really shine, regardless of which chip you buy.

Slammin
08-21-07, 11:28 PM
I'm amazed (well, not really) that anyone is advising to get an AMD these days.

nekrosoft13
08-22-07, 12:44 AM
:rofl you put AMD and "best" in the same sentence.

thats just ****ing classic

crainger
08-22-07, 12:51 AM
poor AMD... C'mon guys, remember our 939 systems?

mullet
08-22-07, 01:09 AM
If you are never I repeat never going to OC AMD has some good chips for a good price.

EDIT: never mind, INTEL FTW. :captnkill:


ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131011
$179.99

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADX6000CZBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103773
$169.99

Total = $349.98
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ASUS P5K-E/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131196
$154.99

Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6750 - Retail
Item #: N82E16819115029
$204.99

Total = $359.98

Uberpwnage
08-22-07, 01:55 AM
lmao

mullet
08-22-07, 02:01 AM
lmao

you were wrong Mr. Uberpwnage it was $10.00 more. :D

Uberpwnage
08-22-07, 02:33 AM
you were wrong Mr. Uberpwnage it was $10.00 more. :D

I was talking about the processor prices only, but nice to see you brought it down to $10 w/ the mobo too. Hard to pass that up :)

DRen72
08-22-07, 08:23 AM
poor AMD... C'mon guys, remember our 939 systems?Yep (See sig), but I'm jumping back to Intel this fall. Sorry AMD. My X2 has served me well for two years now and its time to move to the 45nm Intel CPU's. :)

hell_of_doom227
08-22-07, 10:30 AM
AMD 6000+ is just fine CPU. It handles Bioshock in 1680*1050 everything maxed with single 8800GTX just damn fast. I compared with Core 2...and nothing spectacular over 6000+ talking about few frames...
If you can get AMD 6400+...even better...

Remember that 570SLI or 590SLI chipset will handle Barcelona fine, and I heard Barcelona is faster then Core 2 up to 40% per clock.

DiscipleDOC
08-22-07, 10:37 AM
I have a 6000+ and it performs good. As others have said, if you're not going to overclock, the 6000 will do fine.

jeffmd
08-22-07, 10:39 AM
Mullet, hmm, interesting. I may get the core 2 after all. Im a bit of an asus fan so its nice to see someone recommending their boards still. ;) The board seems to have a ton of features, especially many that contribute the design friendlyness (The expansion slot lights rocked me, finally no more worrying about if my first bootup will die due to the video card being unseated), and a plethora of heat/power reduction methods. Sadly I cant find any reviews for it yet. :/

BTW does the ati crossfire work on the nvidia cards? or will nvidias own sli tech work reguardless of crossfire? or do I need a mobo with nvidias SLI supported?

edit: Just to toss this question around, I'll try out the default heat sink first, but if it turns out to be to noisy does anyone recommend a quiet HSF (no over clocking)? Preferably one that is the traditional vertical stack, Id much rather stay away from the huge mammoth heatsinks that spread out and seemingly take over your motherboard.

Ok, just went around and did a preliminary build of my system. with the 6750 and mobo above, I'll be coupling it with an antec 182 w/ Antec NeoPower 650 Blue PSU, and OCZ Platinum 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Micron D7 Chip Dual Channel Kit ($153) and topping it off with EVGA's 640-P2-N825-AR GeForce 8800GTS 640MB 320-bit GDDR3 (the 576mhz version). Anything anyone want to add or suggest changed?

gstanford
08-22-07, 11:40 AM
Yes, the AMD 6000+ is a good performer so long as you don't intend overclocking, and you can build up a very nice system significantly cheaper than an equivelant intel one (the price difference between nforce 680i and 590 is very significant just for starters).

As for a decent heatsink, I very much like the Thermaltake CL-P0371 TMG A1. Its cheap, effective and very easy to fit since it clips on and doesn't require mounting through the cpu heatsink holes. Quiet in operation too.

john19055
08-22-07, 12:46 PM
If you are building a new computer ,then IMO I would go with a Core 2 Duo ,I mean you can even get a Quad Core 2 for under $300 and they overclock fine .I hear a Core 2 Duo are no faster then a quad ,but ever game I run is faster compared to my E6600 at 3.3gigs to my Q6600 at 3.3gigs.but if you do not want to overclock at all then a 6000 will be plenty fast for games now.