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CDE_1246
08-27-07, 12:40 AM
Hey guys,
I was wondering if this CPU:
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10005523&prodlist=pricegrabber
Is compatible with my motherboard. My motherboard is a Foxconn 865PE7MC-S.
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=865PE7MC-S-R&cat=MBB
It says the supported CPU's on the specs there but I'm still wondering if that would be compatible. After all it is all the same socket. I'm using LGA775.
Thanks alot!

verboten
08-27-07, 09:57 AM
No. This MB will not support a 1333mhz bus CPU

CDE_1246
08-27-07, 12:09 PM
DAMMIT!
Thanks though.
Would you or anyone know what a good CPU for me to upgrade to without having to upgrade my motherboard? Thanks

spaceigg
08-27-07, 12:11 PM
if you are really thinking of upgrading you will have to upgrade the MOBO imho

CDE_1246
08-27-07, 12:12 PM
I don't want to spend the money though. What about the Pentium D? Thats Dual Core?

SlieTheSecond
08-27-07, 01:08 PM
I don't want to spend the money though. What about the Pentium D? Thats Dual Core?

I think some are, some are not.

But that wont be much of an upgrade. Better off not spending any money at all than go that route imo.

CDE_1246
08-27-07, 07:33 PM
I guess I shouldn't upgrade the CPU. I'm thinking 2Gb's of RAM and a Geforce 7950gt AGP for a worthwhile upgrade.

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227210

Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150223

Uberpwnage
08-27-07, 11:41 PM
I guess I shouldn't upgrade the CPU. I'm thinking 2Gb's of RAM and a Geforce 7950gt AGP for a worthwhile upgrade.

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227210

Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150223

I would say get a new PCI-E mobo, keep your processor, and upgrade to 2GB DDR2 and a PCI-E video card. You should be able to save some money on the ram and gpu that way, and use the left overs for the mobo. That way you will be set to upgrade to Core 2 later on.

CDE_1246
08-27-07, 11:51 PM
Thanks. Would you have any recommendations or links? That would be appreciated.

Blacklash
08-28-07, 05:50 AM
Go P35. Look through here and find one that suits your tastes:

http://www.techspot.com/article/61-intel-p35-motherboard-roundup/

Some suggestions if you are after price vs performance-

If you don't care about RAID, 70usd after rebate:

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA23929&RSKU=BA23929

If you want a RAID capable board, 109usd with rebate:

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA23928&RSKU=BA23928

RAID for 129usd:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128050

Another very good RAID capable mobo for 155usd:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131196

Yet another good option, DFI P35 for 139usd:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136038&Tpk=dfi%2bp35

Most of the P35 boards are very close in performance. I'd go after price, support and of course the features you desire.

Starscream
08-28-07, 09:36 AM
I've sold a bunch of systems with 865 based motherboards and Intel E4300 Core 2 Duo's. You should check with Foxconn but I expect that cpu would nicely.

CaptNKILL
08-28-07, 10:07 AM
I'd definitely upgrade the motherboard if at all possible. The AGP 7950 is extremely overpriced and really wouldn't be much better than what you have now, in fact you might not even notice the difference in most cases. Definitely not worth it.

If you're going to spend that much on a video card, get a 320Mb 8800GTS and get a massive performance increase.

If you can't afford a full system upgrade all at once, buy in parts.

You're in a bit of a difficult spot though because you'd need new RAM, mobo, CPU and video card. You might even need a new power supply too if you go with the 8800. :o

EDIT: Actually... a good fit for your system might be an 8600GTS. You can get one for around $150 and it should give you a decent performance boost as well as DirectX 10 capabilities (not that that is worth much).

That'd probably work fine with your 500W PSU.

CDE_1246
08-28-07, 10:55 AM
Thanks, My PSU could handle an 8800GTS. The 8600GTS is too underpowered for me its only 128bit memory interface. I hate being in this spot, its not just a simple video card or RAM upgrade I have to upgrade my whole motherboard and crap. I hate having AGP because I could buy the Abit motherboard that Blacklash put up buy I still have to upgrade my video card and that raises the price so much. Also at the same time I have to save up for a car. All I want to do is get the stuff for my computer over with and then start saving for a car.

CDE_1246
08-28-07, 10:17 PM
Ok Ok. I guess I am going to have to make the leap to PCI-E. In that case I'm saving more money so I don't have to hear it from my mom.

Heres the motherboard P35 nice and cheap good brand good features and good reviews also quad core ready and everything:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059

Good Memory Crucial good brand, 2gb's DDR2 800 nice and cheap 69.99 after rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565

It's all good so far now here about 164.00 only a little bit more than just the RAM i was buying. Now comes the video card which raises the price dramatically. Some help on a recommended cheap good video card would be appreciated.

Thinking of a 7950GT PCI-E because it's only about 170.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143090
Total would be: 344.97.
Please tell me this would be a good upgrade. Thanks!
PS: I'm not concerned about SLI.

Blacklash
08-29-07, 02:53 AM
If you are staying on DX9 and want good shader power with very nice AF:

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-1950XT&c=fr&pid=76524d8b6d87ecd69c215c3f2ab74ac9d9668e34d3c749 8da9126157f3761b19

It's a 175usd card.

Review of a card just like it:

http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=2122&cid=3&pg=5

If you want a cheap card that still has darn good performance with the same HQ AF, X1950Pro for 115usd after rebate:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161060

A card like it is included in the review I linked. For 115, it looks real good to me :p

CaptNKILL
08-29-07, 08:26 AM
Ok Ok. I guess I am going to have to make the leap to PCI-E. In that case I'm saving more money so I don't have to hear it from my mom.

Heres the motherboard P35 nice and cheap good brand good features and good reviews also quad core ready and everything:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059

Good Memory Crucial good brand, 2gb's DDR2 800 nice and cheap 69.99 after rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146565

It's all good so far now here about 164.00 only a little bit more than just the RAM i was buying. Now comes the video card which raises the price dramatically. Some help on a recommended cheap good video card would be appreciated.

Thinking of a 7950GT PCI-E because it's only about 170.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143090
Total would be: 344.97.
Please tell me this would be a good upgrade. Thanks!
PS: I'm not concerned about SLI.
That'd probably do pretty well, but if there is any way you can squeeze out enough to get a 320Mb 8800 you won't regret it. I know its a big step up in price, but from the 7800 you have right now I just don't think anything else would give you that much of a performance increase.

Theres nothing worse than spending a crap load of money and not being 100% satisfied.

I guess that X1900XT is pretty nice for the price though. It should be much faster than any other card in that price range... but its ATI. Which isn't a bad thing, its just a bit of unfamiliar territory around here as far as drivers and trouble shooting.

CDE_1246
08-29-07, 11:54 AM
Thanks. Thats the thing I'm a hardcore Nvidia fan and like the Capt'n said, "its unfamiliar territory". Thanks for the links though. I think I'm just gonna go with the 7950. My last paycheck was 98.00 and I thought it was gonna be like 50. Then I bought Bioshock with that money which was 50.00. In total I have around 300.00 i guess or more so I think after I get paid next week I'm gonna see if I can go through with this. My mom just always tells me that I upgrade my computer too much and I don't appreciate it. The reason why I have to keep upgrading is because I'm using a motherboard with AGP and DDR400 RAM slots. I'll just tell her that if i get this hardware I won't have to upgrade for a very long time.

CDE_1246
08-29-07, 04:55 PM
Actually I'll just go with this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102034

I don't care at this point whether it's ATI or Nvidia, all I care about is that its fast and cheap.