View Full Version : Great Sound (quality and position detection)

09-12-07, 11:48 AM
So I'm close to pulling the trigger on a new system and want to make sure I have the best graphics and great sound (maybe not the best) out there, with a great headset. I've been using on board sound for years and am out of touch with the latest sound cards but am told that if I really want good sound with precise position detection in headphones I should look at a 7.1 sound card and headphones. Is this true, do you need a 7.1 sound card, is the mobo sound not able to produce decent directional sound with good quality... (my mobo listed below)

So I'm think of this for the sound card:

Although in all honesty it looks like this card actually gets better reviews and is a third of the cost:

Could someone please educate me on why I would want to pay 3x for the first card? Thanks in advance...

For headphones I'm looking at:

or... ugly but had a friend highly recommended it (can't try it, lives too far away)...

Hear good things about these, but no mic, would it be worth getting a seperate mic?

I play cs online and a few other games online so I need a mic, just not sure if I should buy the mic seperately or have it with the headphones, I guess if the quality of the stand alone headphones was considerably better I would consider going the seperate mic route... thoughts...

I'd prefer the type that completely surrounds the ear, instead of sitting on top of the ear. Also, heard many reports that the ones that sit in your ear are more likely to cause hearing loss because of the close proximity to the ear drum...

Also. looking at getting Vista 64bit so any conflicts or issues with sound cards that you can think of would be helpful...

Really appreciate any responses...:jammin:



btw this is the mobo I'm looking at:
Says onboard audio 8 channels, is this 7.1? How would this be for decent sound output?

09-12-07, 01:41 PM
2 popular high quality headphones that have been around for a while are the senn 280pros (best closed ear headphones ever) and the grado 60's (80's give better bass, but require a bit more power and some think the ear pads are a little more uncomfortable). I've owned both of these amongst others and their easier to recommend. Sifting through the many different headphones out there when the far majority are utter crap is hard indeed. To many people recommend a new unknown headphone they just got, and then we find out its crap and the person doesn't actually know what a good headphones sounds like. ^^

09-12-07, 01:58 PM
The Sennheiser HD 215 Headphones are in my price range, Are they any good?

09-13-07, 06:36 PM
Thanks for the input...


Ouch gettin a little pricey....

I need to go to a Fry's and evaluate some, but usually the stores have so much crap noise around...

What about mobo sound, is the sound card really worth it?



bob saget
09-13-07, 11:27 PM
sen HD XXX any is great. Creative soundcard is a must.

09-13-07, 11:30 PM
lol, when people keep thinking that $100 is pricey for headphones, its no wonder most people don't know what a good set of headphones sound like. Its exactly like buying any other speakers, and the majority of $40 bookshelf speakers suck, and they get the benefit of using multiple speakers. Headphones need to drive all frequencies through just a single driver.

"Pricey" is $300-$400 for headphones, $100 (Grado 60 is $70 and still generally regarded as the best headphones under $70) is where audiophile phones start and is a good place for those who listen to portable music players alot can find a headphone to maximise their listening experience (you are not likely to hear a difference in MP3's with more expensive phones, not to mention players have a hard time powering them).

09-17-07, 02:14 PM
sen HD XXX any is great. Creative soundcard is a must.
even these?
Im guessing the 215's are the sensible minimum.

09-17-07, 04:16 PM
I currently own:
Senn HD 590 (Use at work now)
Senn HD 650
AKG K 271 Studio
AKG K 701

Out of all of those I love the AKG 701's the most they have the best sound reproduction I've ever heard. They are open-ear design, since you are a CS player it is probably best to try and find a "closed-ear" headphone so that all external sound is eliminated. In which case I find the K 271's are nice, and even mute themselves when they aren't on your head.

The absolute best closed-ear headphones I've ever owned were Sony Studio Monitor head phones, but the construction was flimsy and the headband broke after about a year.