51GB HD-DVD approved.

[KasuCode]

HD-DVD has 1GB on Blu Ray. Thats like an extra 10 minutes of porn more compaired to Blu Ray.


Toshiba's triple layer gambit

The DVD Forum has approved Toshiba's proposal for a new triple layer disc structure.

Current HD DVDs come in single and dual layer flavors, with 15 and 30GB capacity respectively.

The new standard increases capacity per layer from 15 to 17GB to offer a total of 51GBs of storage, one gigabyte more than a dual layer Blu Ray disc.

It is still unclear whether the new triple layer discs are compatible with currently available HD devices.


http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3000&Itemid=1

[nekrosoft13]

The DVD Forum presented the basic specifications of two new triple-layer HD DVD disc formats, in an effort to offer higher storage capacities competitive to the rival Blu-Ray camp.

The DVD Forum presented two new extensions of the HD DVD-ROM format:

- The HD DVD-ROM Triple layer 51GB (single format)
- The Triple layer Twin format

The presentation took place in the DVD Forum, PCC, Europe Conference 2007 on September 3rd at Novotel Berlin, Am Tiergarten hotel.

HD DVD-ROM Triple layer 51GB

This is a HD DVD-ROM disc with three layers. Each layer can store up to 17GB of data/video, resulting in a total capacity of 51GB.

The disc has been approved by the DVD Forum's WG-11 (Triple layer 51 GB disc Ver.1.9), and is expected to be also approved by the TCG/SC later this year.

http://www.cdrinfo.com/images/uploaded/HDDVD_TripleLayer1.png

The new disc adds a high-end option to the previous HD DVD-ROM disc lineup that includes the 15GB (single-layer, single-sided) and 30GB (dual-layer, single-sided). Commercialization of the 51GB HD DVD-ROm disc could definitely be a strong weapon for the HD DVD format against Sony's Blu-Ray, which currently offers a maximum of 50GB of storage capacity with 2-layer discs. However, the new HD DVD-ROM discs may not be copmatible with the first generaation HD DVD players, since their triple-layer nature could require the use of spherical aberration compensation techniques for reading, a feature that is not currently supported by the HD DVD hardware. The DVD Forum's representatives said that the issue is still under study.

DVD/HD DVD-ROM Triple layer Twin format

This is the second extension of the HD DVD format that was presented at the DVD Forum sconference. This is a single- sided disc with one DVD layer and two HD DVD layers. The available capacities are 4.7GB for DVD and 30Gb for HD DVD.


http://www.cdrinfo.com/images/uploaded/HDDVD_TripleLayer2.png

The WG-11 approved the extension (Triple layer Twin format Ver. 1.9). The standard definition content of the new "hybrid" discs can be played back on current DVD Players, while their owners will also be able to enjoy high-definition content from the same source when they purchase HD DVD players. The new disc further prepares the way for a smooth transition from DVD to HD DVD.


http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=21372

I especially like the idea of single sided DVD/dual layer HD-DVD format.

[DRen72]

More bad news for Blue-Ray it would seem.

[nekrosoft13]

thats why I love HD-DVD at least they try to make it a easier transition, you can buy a movie play it now in DVD and later when you get HD-DVD player just watch it in HD format. won't have to buy the movie again.

[walterman]

Will these new 3 layers discs work with old hd-dvd players ? (Like the xbox 360 hd-dvd unit, f.e.)

[Xav]

Everything I've read says at most all that will be required is a firmware update.

[nekrosoft13]

Will these new 3 layers discs work with old hd-dvd players ? (Like the xbox 360 hd-dvd unit, f.e.)

It is still unclear whether the new triple layer discs are compatible with currently available HD devices.

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[Tygerwoody]

Its been long known that HD-DVD has capability to do triple layer. Its also known that Blu0ray has 100gb quad layer disks.

I'm not on the side of BluRay here, just saying this news is irrelevant in the "war".


Edit: BTW, the Quad Layer BluRay disk has double the speed of a normal 1 or 2 layer disk.

http://www.physorg.com/news9683.html linkage to 100gb Quad BluRay

[Tygerwoody]

Lets not stop there. Why not discuss the 200gb 8 layer BluRay? I mean, this is very important information right? http://www.engadget.com/2006/04/28/tdk-ok-were-done-with-the-200gb-recordable-blu-ray/

[nekrosoft13]

who cares about blu-ray 100gb

HVD is the future
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc

[Tygerwoody]

who cares about blu-ray 100gb

HVD is the future
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
snippet from link


Optware was expected to release a 200 GB disc in early June 2006, and Maxell in September 2006 with a capacity of 300 GB and transfer rate of 20 MB/s.[2] Since the announcement, there have been no further news or products on market.
Its taking the market by storm I see... :rolleyes:

[nekrosoft13]

snippet from link


Its taking the market by storm I see... :rolleyes:

its being used my TV stations right now. there is no need for such a high capacity media in home.

[MustangSVT]

its being used my TV stations right now. there is no need for such a high capacity media in home.
I bet you just made that up. TV Stations don't use 100-200 gig BluRay discs.

[nekrosoft13]

of course they don't blu-ray doesn't have disc that size

[evilchris]

oMg 51221 igigIabTY!! wilLs THIds dsMake MdY movIeS beTeRR!!!

[mullet]

How much does an average HD movie take?

[tornadog]

why would u watch an average movie in HD??? :P

[-=Gib-McFragger=-]

How much does an average HD movie take?I could be wrong, but I think you can fit 4 standard length HD-DVD movies on one HD-DVD disc. I could be off on that though.

[mullet]

I could be wrong, but I think you can fit 4 standard length HD-DVD movies on one HD-DVD disc. I could be off on that though.

Hmm I did some searching and found this.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=750870

12 Monkeys: 21.9 GiB - 23 532 732 416 bytes
2 Fast 2 Furious: 21.2 GiB - 22 857 646 080 bytes
The Adventures Of Robin Hood: 27.2 GB - 29 238 362 112 bytes
Apollo 13: 27.6 GiB - 29 643 898 880 bytes
Batman Begins: 24.8 GiB - 26 637 697 024 bytes
Blazing Saddles: 25.4 GiB - 27 279 753 216 bytes
Caddyshack: 19.7 GiB - 19 315 032 064 bytes
Casablanca: 22.4 GiB - 24 411 897 856 bytes
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory: 26.6 GiB - 28 594 405 376 bytes
Chronicles of Riddick: 26.3 GiB - 28 246 081 536
Constantine: 21.9 GiB - 23 585 423 360 bytes
Corpse Bride: 19.0 GiB - 20 497 760 256 bytes
The Dirty Dozen: 27.6 GiB - 29 692 461 056 bytes
End Of Days: 27.7 GiB - 29 766 647 808 bytes
Excalibur: 19.2 GiB - 20 639 776 768 bytes
Fast Times At Ridgemont High: 12.6 GiB - 13 579 911 168 bytes
The Fast And The Furious: 27.5 GiB - 29 612 965 888 bytes
Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas: 22.6 GiB - 24 271 781 888 bytes
The Frighteners: 25.7GiB - 27 640 059 904 bytes (Documentary 7.62 GiB, Main Feature 17.1 GiB)
The Fugitive: 18.2 GiB - 19 560 988 672 bytes
Grand Prix: 22.3 GiB - 23 962 320 896 bytes
Happy Feet: 14.8 GiB - 15 912 293 191 bytes
Happy Gilmore: 15.1 GiB - 16 233 070 592 bytes
The Italian Job: 24.1 GiB - 25 893 535 744 bytes
Jarhead: 24.7 GiB - 26 563 248 128 bytes.
King Kong: 27.4 GiB - 29 482 090 496 bytes
The Last Samurai: 27.3 GiB - 29 348 200 448 bytes
The Manchurian Candidate: 27.0 GiB - 29 061 021 696 bytes
Mission Impossible: III Disk 1: 26.7 GiB - 28 771 549 184 bytes
Mission Impossible: III Disk 2: 22.6 GiB - 24 372 641 792 bytes
Pitch Black: 21.3 GiB - 22 956 670 976 bytes
The Polar Express: 13.0 GiB - 14 009 499 648 bytes
Ray: 27.0 GiB - 29 091 430 400 bytes
Seabiscuit: 25.3 GiB - 27 192 066 048 bytes
The Searchers: 27.8 GiB - 29 869 342 720 bytes
Serenity: 19.6 GiB - 21 070 675 968 bytes
Spartacus: 27.6 GiB - 29 655 302 144 bytes
Swordfish: 18.4 GiB - 19 812 646 912 bytes
The Thing: 25.6 GiB - 27 549 171 712 bytes
Tomb Raider: 26.0 GiB - 27 938 652 160 bytes
Training Day: 22.5 GiB - 24 214 634 496 bytes
Troy: 22.6 GB - 24 311 234 560 bytes
U2 - Rattle & Hum: 17.2 GiB - 18 567 331 840 bytes
U-571: 23.2 GiB - 24 999 755 766 bytes
Under Siege: 17.4 GiB - 18 735 300 608 bytes
Unforgiven: 25.7 GiB - 27 656 454 144 bytes
Van Helsing: 25.4 GiB - 27 365 212 160 bytes
We Were Soldiers: 27.1 GiB - 29 150 216 192 bytes

The smallest is Fast Times At Ridgemont High (12.6 GiB).
The biggest is The Searchers (27.8 GiB).