G90 = D8E = Dual PCB = 8950GX2?? = Quad SLI

[KasuCode]

I hope they get the drivers right this time.

Early 2008, GX2 like



Nvidia's next generation high end part will have two PCB cards. The card codenamed D8E or the one that we called G90 – G92 for months will be GX2 like.




We wrote about such a card back in March when our Cuda sources confirmed that Nvidia has such a design in plans.




Desktop 8 series Enthusiast is scheduled for first months of 2008 and will need a lot of power. It is a 65 part, or lets say it will have two chips each 65 nanometre with its own memory. This will bring back the Quad SLI concept in the game.




If you don't trust us, ask Nvidia.


http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3245&Itemid=1

[Brent101]

Lets hope Fud is wrong on this one. I really don't want the new highend to be a dual PCB card.

[DRen72]

Lets hope Fud is wrong on this one. I really don't want the new highend to be a dual PCB card.It would be fine as long as they actually support the thing this time.

[Brent101]

Perhaps, but when I look at games that don't support SLI or having poor SLI support (from the developer side as well, not just Nvidia) I don't see a lot of value in this card. If this is the direction they are going, hopefully they prove me wrong though.

[slaWter]

Damn that would suck big time! Especially with the current SLI driver situation.

[Saintster]

I would have to wait this out.Interesting they would go this way. I'm happy with my Gtx for another year anyway.

[Monolyth]

If you don't trust us, ask Nvidia.

Yeah because nVidia is releasing details publicly about their chips aren't they?

As I said before Fuad is ex-Inq, take his **** with a grain, not even a grain actually try a molecule.

And the reason that they can say "We were right 1/2 a year ago." Is because they report everything regardless if they can substantiate it or not or even if it is contradictory to their previous posts. Makes it a lot easier later on to say look we were right...

Honestly I don't see how Fudzilla & Inquirer get linked more often then some rumor forum post, they are just as useless in most cases.

[CaptNKILL]

GX2 FTL

Thats a terrible terrible idea...

[zer0]

FTL indeed.

they never learn

[Redeemed]

Well, maybe this means nVidia wants to focus a lot of their driver attention on SLi now. It's been borked in Vista from the get-go it seems. I remember with my two 7600GTs that I had SLi'd in XP in some very *rare* occasions I'd see over a 100% increase from a single 7600GT. With dual 8800GTSs I see at best about 20% fps increase...:(

So, I doubt I'll buy this new card but since it is still an 8-series card I'm praying that nVidia will focus on getting SLi performance and stability up to snuff.

[KasuCode]

Its also possible they are going to use a diffrent method for the two chips to talk. Ati's New dual chip (2x2600xt) is going to work as one card not 2 crossfired togeather. Who knows, but one thing can be sure. Nvidia dosnt want ATI being the only one with a Quad card setup.

[AngelGraves13]

So no Geforce 9 series? What is the point of the GX2? It takes up a lot of room and power and the 9 series will be faster than it anyways. What a waste of time and money and resources.

[Redeemed]

Its also possible they are going to use a diffrent method for the two chips to talk. Ati's New dual chip (2x2600xt) is going to work as one card not 2 crossfired togeather. Who knows, but one thing can be sure. Nvidia dosnt want ATI being the only one with a Quad card setup.

Good point, that is very possible as well.

So no Geforce 9 series? What is the point of the GX2? It takes up a lot of room and power and the 9 series will be faster than it anyways. What a waste of time and money and resources.

Well, this just means that the GF8 series will have a 2 year life span, then we'll see the GF9 series. And, here's hoping that a GF9800GTX will be comparable to two 8950GX2s in Quad-SLi. :D

[SH0DAN]

I now wish the R600 was all that and a bag of chips,then we'd be really talking about the 8900 xxx series,as people here and everywhere else would have them or at least have retail access to them.AMD falling down on the job (R6xx) is not good for 3D gaming hardware,advancing at a rapid and heated pace.

[Ywap]

I find it hard to believe that this is all nVidia could come up with in a year and a die shrink....

[Xion X2]

This would be downright stupid, if true.


Customer: "You mean I can have me a card for double the price that works to its full potential half the time? Where's my $@&!^* wallet!?!? [/reaches frantically]"

[Redeemed]

This would be downright stupid, if true.


Customer: "You mean I can have me a card for double the price that works to its full potential half the time? Where's my $@&!^* wallet!?!? [/reaches frantically]"

Then again, if nVidia decides to implement a dual-card solution that does not utilize SLi that wont be a problem.

Or, if it does utilise SLi then nVidia will have to crank out some drivers that bring about the original 60%+ performance gain we used to get with SLi.

Either way, so long as performance is not crippled I'll be happy. I won't buy anything as I'm waiting for the 9 series. But atleast is this forces them to get SLi working better I'll be happy cause then I can put my other 8800GTS back in my rig. :D

[CaptNKILL]

Then again, if nVidia decides to implement a dual-card solution that does not utilize SLi that wont be a problem.

Or, if it does utilise SLi then nVidia will have to crank out some drivers that bring about the original 60%+ performance gain we used to get with SLi.

The 7950 GX2 had very inconsistent SLI performance.
When SLI worked well, you got decent boost in performance over a 7900GTX.

When SLI just plain didn't work, you got the performance of a $300 card out of your $600 card.

When SLI was broken, you'd get glitches and slide show theater and you'd have to disable SLI to play the game.

Considering that you could get any of the results above in any game depending on which SLI mode or SLI profile you chose, you HAD to screw with settings almost constantly to even play any games.

I think SLI is probably a headache as it is, but single-slot SLI is a hell of a lot worse.

[Redeemed]

The 7950 GX2 had very inconsistent SLI performance.
When SLI worked well, you got decent boost in performance over a 7900GTX.

When SLI just plain didn't work, you got the performance of a $300 card out of your $600 card.

When SLI was broken, you'd get glitches and slide show theater and you'd have to disable SLI to play the game.

Considering that you could get any of the results above in any game depending on which SLI mode or SLI profile you chose, you HAD to screw with settings almost constantly to even play any games.

I think SLI is probably a headache as it is, but single-slot SLI is a hell of a lot worse.

You're going on pure assumptions that, if nVidia uses SLi for the two PCBs to communicate, it'll turn out comparable to the 7950GX2. There is no indication that this is even the case.

1.)Nvidia uses SLi to allow the two PCBs to communicate:

-It is quite possible that they would begin to focus heavily on SLi performance in regards to future driver releases. This would be a huge plus for owners of the 8950GX2 and those that have regular 8800s in SLi. I myself am actually hoping for this cause I'd love to plug that second 8800GTS of mine in and reap atleast a 60% gain in FPS. Preferably more.

-Hopefully, the worst case scenerio will be that the 8950GX2 is a comparable repeat of the 7950GX2- but atleast nvidia could possibly have better "standard" SLi drivers for those running two 8800s.

2.)Nvidia does not use SLi to allow the two PCBs to communicate, decides to use another- none-SLi method- instead.

-I'm not so stoked about this cause then nVidia has no need to offer significant performance improvements via future drivers for SLi with 8800s.

-Those with the 8950GX2 would gain a significant performance advantage, more than likely, due to both cards functioning all the time. No need to worry about broken SLi with this method.

[Xion X2]

You're going on pure assumptions that, if nVidia uses SLi for the two PCBs to communicate, it'll turn out comparable to the 7950GX2. There is no indication that this is even the case.

And so are you. There's no proof of this "new method" that you speak of, only "assumptions." What we have to go on right now is the current state of SLI, which is really lacking.

Crossfire has the same issues, and I've heard of ATI using two GPUs on their next high-end card. I really hope that both of these guys have some sort of alternate dual-GPU configuration in the works with the disaster that both SLI and Crossfire are in Vista and DirectX10 gaming at this point. Otherwise, this is a complete waste of customer money and time.

Then again, this comes from Fudzilla, so who knows.

[Delbert]

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3310&Itemid=1
Tell me its not so.....:cry:

[retsam]

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3310&Itemid=1
Tell me its not so.....:cry:
it isnt so... you have to remember that nvidia is great at the media manipulation game and leaks bits and peices of info and has even gone so far as to brief the press themselves with the wrong specs knowing full well that the compitition would get hold of that info...