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Playback Problems Reported on 'Silver Surfer,' 'Day After Tomorrow' Blu-ray Discs
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/1035
"The most severe problems have been reported on Samsung's BDP-1200 and LG's BH100, which are both said to be incapable of playing back the discs at all. Less catastophic issues (error messages and playback stutter) have been reported for Samsung's BDP-1000. The discs appear to play back fine on all other Blu-ray players (including the PlayStation 3), although users have reported lengthy load times of up to two minutes."
superklye
10-04-07, 07:47 PM
Boy...can't wait for the 1.1 spec **** storm...
nekrosoft13
10-04-07, 10:32 PM
Boy...can't wait for the 1.1 spec **** storm...
yap, BD camp is full of geniuses, hey lets start selling products that are not fully finished.
crainger
10-04-07, 10:55 PM
:wonder:
I guess that's one good thing about the PS3's BD support being so software based I guess.
It is software based right? :o
nekrosoft13
10-04-07, 11:03 PM
:wonder:
I guess that's one good thing about the PS3's BD support being so software based I guess.
It is software based right? :o
not sure, but profile 1.1 uses two hardware video decoders, no clue how they will get around that on ps3.
it will get even more interesting with profile 2.0 ;)
crainger
10-04-07, 11:08 PM
The Cell is all profiles.
evilchris
10-04-07, 11:29 PM
BD still isn't ready for launch. What a POS.
DarthBeavis
10-05-07, 02:20 AM
BD still isn't ready for launch. What a POS.
works flawlessly on my PS3 just as HD DVD works flawlessly on my 360 Elite (well, currently doing a special mod on my Halo 3 edition 360 . . .which will replace the Elite but with a larger HDD and special interface with a PC). Of course EvilChris has a special insight into the high def war because he has FBI contacts ;)
Oh, + 2 for pops . . .for his service
nekrosoft13
10-05-07, 09:22 AM
works flawlessly on my PS3 just as HD DVD works flawlessly on my 360 Elite (well, currently doing a special mod on my Halo 3 edition 360 . . .which will replace the Elite but with a larger HDD and special interface with a PC). Of course EvilChris has a special insight into the high def war because he has FBI contacts ;)
Oh, + 2 for pops . . .for his service
sorry, but he is right, its not often when he is right, but this time he is.
sony rushed out a standard that wasn't finished. People that adapted the tech right of the bat will be having problems. Because their players won't meet the 1.1 profile.
Its been over a year since BD launched, and standard still isn't finished.
superklye
10-05-07, 10:28 AM
Its been over a year since BD launched, and standard still isn't finished.
And they keep releasing players that will be incompatible with 1.1. Thank God Samsung woke up and halted their upcoming BD player and hybrid player. It makes no sense to release either when the spec is a month from being "complete."
And they keep releasing players that will be incompatible with 1.1. Thank God Samsung woke up and halted their upcoming BD player and hybrid player. It makes no sense to release either when the spec is a month from being "complete."
The BD camp releasing incompatible players is good news for the HD-DVD camp, nothing sells a product better than the other side of the fence driving you away.
evilchris
10-05-07, 04:32 PM
sorry, but he is right, its not often when he is right, but this time he is.
Quote where I am wrong, thanks. Provide facts to back it up. Thanks.
DarthBeavis
10-05-07, 04:54 PM
sorry, but he is right, its not often when he is right, but this time he is.
sony rushed out a standard that wasn't finished. People that adapted the tech right of the bat will be having problems. Because their players won't meet the 1.1 profile.
Its been over a year since BD launched, and standard still isn't finished.
I have yet to find a BD movie that will not play on my PS3 . . .just as I have yet to find an HD DVD that will not play on my 360.
Butter Bandit
10-06-07, 06:02 PM
not sure, but profile 1.1 uses two hardware video decoders, no clue how they will get around that on ps3.
it will get even more interesting with profile 2.0 ;)
The PS3 has multiple SPEs, each could be used as a decoder.
As was stated earlier, I haven't had a single issue while playing BDs on my PS3. There are certainly issues with some BD players, but the PS3 isn't one of them.
AthlonXP1800
10-15-07, 07:43 PM
All BD players now can handle BD+, thanks to new firmware udates from manufacturers last week.
http://blogs.pcworld.com/staffblog/archives/005671.html
One Samsung BD player owner downloaded the firmware from Samsung website and updated it, Silver Surfer worked fine.
Sweet, they brought in support. However, we all know how this really works.
1: The sales staff sell Grandma and Grandpa the big HDTV,the BlueRay player, and installation.
2: Grandpa being a fantastic four fan buys the new movie.
3: The disc doesn't work so he brings it back to the store to get a exchange. He can't really verbalize what is wrong, so it takes quite a while to get the message to him that he needs to download and burn on to a cd/dvd and update his BD player.
4: Grandpa isn't really tech savvy, which is why he paid for installation.. now he's pissed that he needs to pay $80 to have geeksquad come in and update his player.
5: Grandpa and Grandma:
A) Go back to watching DVD's only.
B) Get the BD player updated, but complain to their friends about BD.
C) Throw the BD player out and get a HD-DVD player.
D) Ask their grandson/granddaughter to fix the problem, the grandson/granddaughter bad mouth BD because of this.
From a consumers point of view, can't you see how stupid this update idea is?
AthlonXP1800
10-16-07, 08:32 PM
Sweet, they brought in support. However, we all know how this really works.
1: The sales staff sell Grandma and Grandpa the big HDTV,the BlueRay player, and installation.
2: Grandpa being a fantastic four fan buys the new movie.
3: The disc doesn't work so he brings it back to the store to get a exchange. He can't really verbalize what is wrong, so it takes quite a while to get the message to him that he needs to download and burn on to a cd/dvd and update his BD player.
4: Grandpa isn't really tech savvy, which is why he paid for installation.. now he's pissed that he needs to pay $80 to have geeksquad come in and update his player.
5: Grandpa and Grandma:
A) Go back to watching DVD's only.
B) Get the BD player updated, but complain to their friends about BD.
C) Throw the BD player out and get a HD-DVD player.
D) Ask their grandson/granddaughter to fix the problem, the grandson/granddaughter bad mouth BD because of this.
From a consumers point of view, can't you see how stupid this update idea is?
No, it the same things with DVD players and recorders. When I bought Liteon LVW-5026 DVD recorder bundled with 50 free Philips DVD+R discs years ago, the recorder cant recorded on new blank Philips DVD+R disc because of compatible problem with new media discs, it required new firmware update. I read the Liteon LVW-5026 manual with instruction how to download and update the new firmware, I went to Liteon website and downloaded the iso image, burned to a blank CDRW disc and then inserted the CDRW into DVD recorder and it updated itself. After that, it recorded on the new media fine.
Same things with Blu-ray players and recorders, it should have instructions how to update the new firmware in the manual, I am sure Granpa wont have trouble reading and understanding the manual. :)
Iapetus
10-17-07, 03:24 PM
Same things with Blu-ray players and recorders, it should have instructions how to update the new firmware in the manual, I am sure Granpa wont have trouble reading and understanding the manual. :)
Never underestimate the stupidness of people. At my mom's school where she teaches, people will complain that they can't turn the computer on. You ask them if everything is plugged in and all switches were turned on. They say yes. You ask them again to make sure that the power strip is plugged in and turned on they say yes again. You go down probably about 75%, either the power strip isn't turned on, plugged in, or the computer isn't plugged into the power strip. This isn't even actually working the computer, this is just plugging the damn thing in. People are way more stupid than you give them credit for.
superklye
10-17-07, 07:50 PM
Never underestimate the stupidness of people. At my mom's school where she teaches, people will complain that they can't turn the computer on. You ask them if everything is plugged in and all switches were turned on. They say yes. You ask them again to make sure that the power strip is plugged in and turned on they say yes again. You go down probably about 75%, either the power strip isn't turned on, plugged in, or the computer isn't plugged into the power strip. This isn't even actually working the computer, this is just plugging the damn thing in. People are way more stupid than you give them credit for.
Well...he is a BD supporter... :p
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