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Madpistol 11-21-07 09:45 PM

Crysis is VERY well optimized (with proof)
 
For all of you that are moaning and complaining about how ****ty the optimization of this game is, I'm going to burst your bubble right now...

This game is VERY well optimized, and I have conclusive evidence to support this. You know what the minimum requirements are for this game?

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 2.8 GHz (3.2 GHz for Vista), Intel Core 2.0 GHz (2.2 GHz for Vista), AMD Athlon 2800+ (3200+ for Vista) or better
RAM: 1GB (1.5GB on Windows Vista)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT, ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (Radeon X800 Pro for Vista) or better
VRAM: 256MB of Graphics Memory


That's verbatim from the website. Look at the specs in my 2nd rig. With the exception of 2GB of ram, it's the minimum requirement listed. Well, I've taken the liberty of installing Crysis on this system.

Bear in mind that my system tanks (in a bad way) on Team Fortress 2 with anything more than 16 players on a server. If you get about 10 of those guys on screen at one time, my framerate dips down to about 10 fps. It's virtually unplayable in those cases... so here's the kicker.

Crysis runs VERY VERY well on my system. Surprisingly, not only is it playable at lowest settings, but it runs around 30-45fps constantly in single player. I've actually been able to set several of the settings up to medium, and it STILL runs very well (between 20-30 fps). Bear in mind, with this computer I do not see any of the cool effects that highend DX9/DX10 rigs see, but it is totally and completely playable. I would venture to say that a 6600 GT would work as well. It would be slow, but it would probably work.

I'm sorry guys, but the boys at Crytek put a lot of work into making this game so it will run on hardware that is several years old. The game scales amazingly well on a P4. I'm actaully blown away that this game runs better than Counter Strike: Source on this PC.

In a few years, this game is going to be rock solid, but right now, it scales well. Just live with it please.

EDIT: I'm going to go run a FRAPS benchmark of the first 5 minutes of the game, and I'll post back the results.

EDIT2: Also, note that this is with the game installed on an external Western Digital USB HDD. Talk about stretching the limits...

nekrosoft13 11-21-07 09:47 PM

Re: Crysis is VERY well optimized (with proof)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Madpistol
I'm sorry guys, but the boys at Crytek put a lot of work into making this game so it will run on hardware that is several years old.

agreed, but small minor correction ;)

Madpistol 11-21-07 09:50 PM

Re: Crysis is VERY well optimized (with proof)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nekrosoft13
agreed, but small minor correction ;)

Fixed.

Much appreciated. ;)

CaptNKILL 11-21-07 10:04 PM

Re: Crysis is VERY well optimized (with proof)
 
Wow, thats a bit unexpected.

Its very taxing at higher graphics settings. I didn't think it'd scale very well.

Madpistol 11-21-07 10:22 PM

Re: Crysis is VERY well optimized (with proof)
 
And the tests are in!

Benchmarks done with FRAPS. Each are 5 minutes long.

Specs are as seen in my signature (2nd rig). Crysis is installed on a Western Digital MyBook 160GB External HDD (USB 2.0)

Settings:

800x600
No AA or AF
Object Detail: Medium
Everything else: Low

The first one is from the beginning of the first cutscene to part of the way through the first level. Here are results:

Frame___Time (ms)_____Min_____Max_______Avg
10470___300000_______0_______104_______34.9

The minimum frame rate is 0 due to loading between scenes. This is coming from an external HDD on a dated system afterall... The frame rate is pretty nice, but it's bloated due to low poly counts and such. The next one is a much better indicator of real world performance.


Second one is done from the end of the first benchmark to the end of the 2nd cutscene (where the guy is found dead and mutilated in the forrest)

results:

Frames___Time (ms)____Min _____Max_______Avg
6491_____300000______10______47________21.637

So here, we see a much more dramatic dip in FPS. I think this occured during the 2nd cutscene. However, the frame rate is indeed very playable. Considering how Crysis is completely playable as low as 15fps, I would deem that this is totally acceptable for gameplay... remember, the object detail is set at medium, not low. This did decrease performance a bit, but it was worth it due to the extra detail that is shown on screen.

There you have it. Crysis is very playable even on the minimum requirement PC. I have no doubt in my mind that this game scales very well. The only problem is when people bitch and complain about how their highend system tanks when you turn up the detail to its maximum settings. This game was designed with the future in mind, but not at the expense of the present.

Thanks for reading! :D

$n][pErMan 11-21-07 10:28 PM

Re: Crysis is VERY well optimized (with proof)
 
Well done... glad someone took the time to run it on an old system. Maybe all these XP crybabies or those with dated systems will shutup now :)

nekrosoft13 11-21-07 10:31 PM

Re: Crysis is VERY well optimized (with proof)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by $n][pErMan
Well done... glad someone took the time to run it on an old system. Maybe all these XP crybabies or those with dated systems will shutup now :)

that will never happen

Madpistol 11-21-07 10:43 PM

Re: Crysis is VERY well optimized (with proof)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nekrosoft13
that will never happen

Maybe not, but now they have evidence that this game is very well optimized for older systems. Perhaps this will shed some light on the situation and give the guys at Crytek some credit for all the hard work they put into this game. ;)

For my next task. I'm going to pick up the game right after the 2nd cutscene and run a 20 minute benchmark. I want to make sure that there is no doubt in anyone's mind that this game is very scalable and playable even on the minimum requirement system.

XxDeadlyxX 11-21-07 11:05 PM

Re: Crysis is VERY well optimized (with proof)
 
Well if you ask me Crysis only looks really good on High... Low/Medium look like a totally different game, so these results don't suprise me.

Madpistol 11-21-07 11:28 PM

Re: Crysis is VERY well optimized (with proof)
 
Last test.

Like I said above, I've run the game for about 20 minutes (I thought it ran too long, so I cut it off early I believe) from the 2nd cutscene to about 1/2 way through the first level. The settings are the same as in my previous post

results:

Frames___Time (ms)_____Min_____Max_______Avg
27869____1197868______0_______58________23.266

The 0 fps is due to a massive dump that my External HDD took. It was in hibernate mode, so when the game needed something new, it took the HDD about 4 seconds to come out of hibernation, and then it took another 3-4 seconds to load what was needed to continue playing. We're talking about real-world performance, so that incident is indeed a factor in this score. Of course, if this game were installed on an internal HDD (like it should be), then that would have never happened.

That being said, the average speaks for itself; the game was very playable at all times (except for that 8 second pause). The AI was very intelligent. It's also a massive resouce hog. After I eliminated about 3 Korean soldiers in an area, the fps picked up from about 30 to around 40-50. This was just from killing the AI. Another thing I noticed is that even though the game is at lowest detail, the gauges on the vehicles still work!!! :D All in all, I had a lot of fun running around the first level again. It was enjoyable. However, after seeing Crysis in all it's glory on my Main Rig, I'm ready to get back to that system...

For all the haters out there that say Crysis runs like poo, you have no excuses now. This game runs great under the correct circumstances. If it runs like crap and your system is higher spec than the minimum requirements, turn the details down ya dope. :p

Madpistol 11-21-07 11:29 PM

Re: Crysis is VERY well optimized (with proof)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XxDeadlyxX
Well if you ask me Crysis only looks really good on High... Low/Medium look like a totally different game, so these results don't suprise me.

This thread is not about how pretty the game looks... It's about playability. While I agree that the game looks like dog poo on the lowest settings, it is totally playable. That's all I'm trying to prove here. ;)

$n][pErMan 11-21-07 11:32 PM

Re: Crysis is VERY well optimized (with proof)
 
Any game looks like poo on low settings... no surprise really :)


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