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lduguay 03-05-08 10:46 AM

Plasma TV is dead
 
Was HD DVDs now Plasma TVs
http://www.audioholics.com/news/indu...sma-tv-is-dead
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DonPMitchell 03-05-08 11:20 AM

Re: Plasma TV is dead
 
More cost driven than quality driven, but it looks like LCD displays are on their way to achieving the same contrast and black-level quality as plasma.

Samsung's new LCDs are using a variable back light, to try to get good black levels, although I've heard there are artifacts -- you can sometimes see the large square sections of the display dim or brighten. Anyway, this will get worked out eventually.

Rakeesh 03-05-08 11:32 AM

Re: Plasma TV is dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonPMitchell
More cost driven than quality driven, but it looks like LCD displays are on their way to achieving the same contrast and black-level quality as plasma.

Plasma isn't really practical at higher resolutions and bigger sizes. By a matter of chemical properties alone, LCD lasts far far longer than anything phosphor based, which includes both CRT and plasma. LCD is vastly more energy efficient, cost efficient, and size/weight efficient than plasma.

IMO the better quality technology in LCD vs plasma is clearly LCD. I knew from years back that LCD would eventually replace plasma for this reason. Likewise, OLED will one day replace LCD for similar reasons.

Monolyth 03-05-08 11:35 AM

Re: Plasma TV is dead
 
END OF DAYS!

DonPMitchell 03-05-08 02:29 PM

Re: Plasma TV is dead
 
LCD has all those advantage, and one disadvantage. When a pixel goes black on a plasma display, it just turns off and emits no light. It's black. But on an LCD, the pixel turns opaque in front of a back light, and some light leaks through.

This problem is being solved by the upcoming LCD displays, which have an array of LED lights than can turn down when a region of the screen is dark.

Toss3 03-05-08 04:24 PM

Re: Plasma TV is dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonPMitchell
LCD has all those advantage, and one disadvantage. When a pixel goes black on a plasma display, it just turns off and emits no light. It's black. But on an LCD, the pixel turns opaque in front of a back light, and some light leaks through.

This problem is being solved by the upcoming LCD displays, which have an array of LED lights than can turn down when a region of the screen is dark.

Yet the samsung sporting the new led-backlighting system doesn't even come close to the kuros in terms of black level performance(seen them side-by-side). Only when watching a completely dark screen did the samsung pull ahead.

Well, this is still a good thing even though lcds still have a very long way to go until they reach the level of picture quality plasmas currently offer, because it shows that the market is moving forward.

Plasmas are still not dead though, at least not until panasonic stops producing them as well.


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Now, Pioneer will buy its panels from the competing brand and it will begin picking up LCD panels from...
So plasmas aren't dead at all. They just won't be producing the panels themselves anymore.

lduguay 03-06-08 06:54 AM

Re: Plasma TV is dead
 
The PZ80 offers a 100hz mode???
Since 100hz is not divisible by 24, 30 or 60, what would be the use of this mode? 120Hz makes more sense to me at least in America. I guess 100Hz could be useful for Europe.

Toss3 03-06-08 08:18 AM

Re: Plasma TV is dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lduguay
The PZ80 offers a 100hz mode???
Since 100hz is not divisible by 24, 30 or 60, what would be the use of this mode? 120Hz makes more sense to me at least in America. I guess 100Hz could be useful for Europe.

120Hz in the states = 100Hz here. :) Pioneer's next plasma is going to have a refresh rate of 72Hz(or was it 75?) to eliminate the problems with the current 120/100hz technology.

Heinzftw 03-07-08 12:50 PM

Re: Plasma TV is dead
 
Just to let you know Plasma tv's go bad within 10 years of their purchase. LCD tv's are the future go buy them!!

CybrSage 03-07-08 01:16 PM

Re: Plasma TV is dead
 
Plasmas are better for the blacks. Panasonic's lineup is very good...so good that even Pioneer (who currently makes the best) will go with their much cheaper panels.

I tested many LCD and Plasma TVs, and in the end chose the Panasonic TH-42PZ700U. Quite happy with my choice.

|JuiceZ| 03-07-08 01:33 PM

Re: Plasma TV is dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heinzftw
Just to let you know Plasma TV’s go bad within 10 years of their purchase. LCD TV's are the future go buy them!!

That’s not necessarily true, both Plasma & LCD TV’s have an average 60,000 hrs lifespan. For example, the average US household watches TV for 7hrs a day, that translates into 20+ years.

Plasma TV’s aren’t going away anytime soon, they’re still manufacturing rear projection TV’s for goodness sake. Each displays do have their pro’s & con’s. IMO OLED will be the future.

We just sold our Toshiba 32HL67U and purchased a new Panasonic TH-42PX80U plasma. Its still going through the burn in process but even at the default viewing profiles it looks awesome, especially when watching HD media. The blacks are almost too black at times, its very smooth and Panny is using new anti glare filters on their 2008 models that seem to work really well. All in all we’re happy with our purchase.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CybrSage
Plasmas are better for the blacks. Panasonic's lineup is very good...so good that even Pioneer (who currently makes the best) will go with their much cheaper panels.

I tested many LCD and Plasma TVs, and in the end chose the Panasonic TH-42PZ700U. Quite happy with my choice.

Good choice man, I was looking at the one too. Even though Pioneer displays have the upper hand, Panny has really narrowed the gap and they have IMO the best performance per price.

lduguay 03-07-08 01:37 PM

Re: Plasma TV is dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Heinzftw
Just to let you know Plasma tv's go bad within 10 years of their purchase. LCD tv's are the future go buy them!!

Most plasma MTBF are rated around 60K hours now. So this is 20 years, 8 hours/day. Although, by that time the phosphor would have faded quite a bit.

PS: Oops JuiceZ was first


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