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pgs 03-11-08 04:24 AM

https access
 
Are these forums accessible using https?

Since login+password are required, it would be not too bad to use secure connection.

Or maybe it is possible, only I could not find out how.

Thanks a lot in advance.

pgs

Runningman 03-11-08 08:52 PM

Re: https access
 
if your so concerned with security, just use a proxy service.

crainger 03-12-08 02:00 AM

Re: https access
 
These forums are very secure. Just give me your cc details and I'll take care of the rest.

cgr

pgs 03-12-08 03:37 AM

Re: https access
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Runningman
if your so concerned with security, just use a proxy service.

That would not help for the login issue.

Maybe there is some misunderstanding here.

The problem is that, in normal http connection, the login+password could be "sniffed" and used later by someone else.

Since all other forums, including the "forums.nvidia..." run on https, I was wondering how about this one.

Anyway thanks for the suggestion.

pgs

Runningman 03-12-08 06:07 AM

Re: https access
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pgs
That would not help for the login issue.

Maybe there is some misunderstanding here.

The problem is that, in normal http connection, the login+password could be "sniffed" and used later by someone else.

just make your password unique from your other passwords and you shouldnt worry about these types of things but i hate to inform you but https suffers from man in the middle attacks also. so if they can "sniff" your clear texted passwords, chances are they can man in the middle you also.


please read up on this type of attack vector.
http://www.contentverification.com/m...dle/index.html

pgs 03-12-08 06:56 AM

Re: https access
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Runningman
just make your password unique from your other passwords and you shouldnt worry about these types of things but i hate to inform you but https suffers from man in the middle attacks also. so if they can "sniff" your clear texted passwords, chances are they can man in the middle you also.


please read up on this type of attack vector.
http://www.contentverification.com/m...dle/index.html

Sniffing is much easier than MTM, it is enough to sit in somewhere in the connection path and capture the traffic, while MTM must be able to capture _and_ change packets in _both_ directions, for all packets. Not to mention that, above TLS, some browser provide also other consistency check.
Of course, the ISP can do easily MTM, but almost everybody can do sniffing.

So, I do agree that https is not the solution to all security problems, but it is anyway better to have one security layer more than one less, considering also that this does not cause more effort to the user.

Of course, my password used here is unique, my concern is if someone starts to post things in these forums with my account.

Or should I consider the missing https as a "safe harbor" mechanism?
That is, I'm not liable for postings with my name here. That would be OK too... :-)

Thanks!

pgs

Runningman 03-12-08 08:11 AM

Re: https access
 
Quote:

Sniffing is much easier than MTM, it is enough to sit in somewhere in the connection path and capture the traffic, while MTM must be able to capture _and_ change packets in _both_ directions, for all packets. Not to mention that, above TLS, some browser provide also other consistency check.
Of course, the ISP can do easily MTM, but almost everybody can do sniffing.
wait, what. almost everybody can not do any of these attacks unless they have root access to a machine within your path at the ISP and tier 1 levels, if your worried about DNS cache poisoning then just run a caching DNS server locally. these things arent as easy as you make them out to be. besides what hacker is going to want your nvnews password...sounds kinda wierd to be worring about something like this...


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