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burli 06-12-08 02:15 AM

Poor desktop performance with Riva TNT2 and legacy driver
 
Hi,
i have an old AMD Duron 1300 with 512Meg Ram and Riva TNT2 (Elsa Erazor 3) running Xubuntu 8.04 and Nvidia legacy driver. I know it's not the fastest PC, but it's fast enough to use. But he would be more usefull if the 2d performance would be better.

gtkperf gives these results
Quote:

GtkPerf 0.40 - Starting testing: Thu Jun 12 09:04:15 2008

GtkEntry - time: 0,39
GtkComboBox - time: 12,20
GtkComboBoxEntry - time: 10,26
GtkSpinButton - time: 2,64
GtkProgressBar - time: 3,70
GtkToggleButton - time: 4,42
GtkCheckButton - time: 4,13
GtkRadioButton - time: 6,13
GtkTextView - Add text - time: 4,50
GtkTextView - Scroll - time: 2,96
GtkDrawingArea - Lines - time: 1,63
GtkDrawingArea - Circles - time: 1,71
GtkDrawingArea - Text - time: 13,03
GtkDrawingArea - Pixbufs - time: 1,38
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Total time: 69,09
The PixmapPlacement with nvidia-settings doesnt work. Any idea what I can do? Or is this a result of the old hardware?

memeyou 06-12-08 03:36 AM

Re: Poor desktop performance with Riva TNT2 and legacy driver
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burli (Post 1679157)
I know it's not the fastest PC, but it's fast enough to use.

Your hardware is almost a decade old. On ubuntu's minimum specs it is noted that even if you adhere to them - graphical stuff will not be satisfactory. This is because some people don't use linux for the desktop (dns, dhcp, routers, etc.) - minimum specs apply best to them. For a graphical desktop running an '08 OS you might want to cut the age of your hardware down by AT LEAST half (don't go older than 5 years?) or run an older OS with less bloat and features.

burli 06-12-08 04:04 AM

Re: Poor desktop performance with Riva TNT2 and legacy driver
 
that's why i use Xfce instead of Gnome or KDE and i dont want to use any kind of desktop effects or watching videos. This PC ist just for office stuff.

I guess that there should be more possible than 69 seconds

pawels133 06-12-08 06:46 AM

Re: Poor desktop performance with Riva TNT2 and legacy driver
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by memeyou (Post 1679220)
For a graphical desktop running an '08 OS you might want to cut the age of your hardware down by AT LEAST half (don't go older than 5 years?) or run an older OS with less bloat and features.

We're talking about 2D performance without 3D effects so riva should be enough to run smooth. The newest high end geforces or it's drivers are just parody when we talk about 2D performance, so I would recommend to buy Intel or Ati card.

Kirurgs 06-12-08 07:00 AM

Re: Poor desktop performance with Riva TNT2 and legacy driver
 
From what I experienced, such old systems are supported only by free drivers not binary ones. If free driver suits you (for nVidia cards there are no HW accelerated free OS driver), use it otherwise more or less it's no-go.
Problem with binary ones are kernel and xorg versions, which almost always are incompatible with old binary drivers and vice versa. As companies (like nVidia, ATI) don't release drivers for old HW for recent kernels and xorgs, it's no-go.

It might be ok if You buy ATI (explanation below), but Intel I dunno, they have never had any decent discrete graphic card. There were some 730 or 740 cards (don't remember namings, thou :D), but they didin't last long.

Big + for ATI is that free radeon driver supports some kind of acceleration, with free driver you can even run compiz, for instance, but I don't really know about 2D or Intel.

Linuxhippy 06-12-08 07:05 AM

Re: Poor desktop performance with Riva TNT2 and legacy driver
 
You could give the neveou driver a try, however be sure you use a recent version of X.org (1.5 prerelease like in Fedora9) and the _latest_ neveou driver (or however its spelled ;) ).

lg Clemens

burli 06-12-08 07:36 AM

Re: Poor desktop performance with Riva TNT2 and legacy driver
 
I don't want to buy new hardware for this PC. The hardware is ok and running. I just want to use 100% of the hardware, not only 30%.

If nv driver, maybe with EXA, works better or this neveou thing it's ok for me. This PC is just for office an a little bit internet

But it's disappointing if open source driver works better than the original driver from the manufacturer.

Big P 06-12-08 07:59 AM

Re: Poor desktop performance with Riva TNT2 and legacy driver
 
The open source driver is also maintained by Nvidia (Aaronp, anyway). With such an old card even using the legacy drivers seems pointless. Use the nv driver if you have no need for 3D.

burli 06-12-08 08:11 AM

Re: Poor desktop performance with Riva TNT2 and legacy driver
 
nv is maintained by Nvidia? I don't know that. I will try out

pawels133 06-12-08 09:15 AM

Re: Poor desktop performance with Riva TNT2 and legacy driver
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burli (Post 1679335)
nv is maintained by Nvidia? I don't know that. I will try out

Yes, but even VESA driver is much faster for me...

Kirurgs 06-12-08 09:18 AM

Re: Poor desktop performance with Riva TNT2 and legacy driver
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pawels133 (Post 1679397)
Yes, but even VESA driver is much faster for me...

Vesa and nv are somewhat comparable on my system, but both sluggish as hell :(
Even when I move nautilus window around...

burli 06-12-08 10:07 AM

Re: Poor desktop performance with Riva TNT2 and legacy driver
 
I tried now some settings with nvidia, nv and vesa. The best results i get with nvidia and 16 bits color depht. most worse result was 8 bit color depht.

But between nvidia and nv driver are only tiny differences. I hope i can find the "Turbo" button for one of these drivers


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