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cvearl 07-09-08 01:36 PM

The right price for the GTX200 family...
 
As a long time PC Gamer I have been having a blast watching all the new cards hit the scene and the recent price drops. It's been an exciting month! (nana2)

After now reading a bazilion reviews for the AMD 4870 and 4850 and getting a 4870 myself, I have turned my attention to the GTX200's. Mainly because I like to own one of each camp and the GTX260 has been of great interrest to me. I enjoy being able to compare cards side by side.

That said, I still have a huge problem with the pricing structure out there. Even in light of price drops. The GTX200's HAVE to come down more!

I have been reading reviews on the GTX200's alot. They are great cards! The release of the 4000 series from AMD do NOT make them any less of a card. However, given current market conditions in the various segments, they are too costly still for what you get. :(

Here is my take on where the current line up needs to be to be a good value and competative. My suggested MSRP's...

9800GTX - $189
GTX260 - $299
GTX280 - $399

I did not include 9800GTX+ becuase it offers nearly nothing over the existing 9800GTX besides a touch lower power consumption. The 9800GTX was fine with a simple price adjustment. That was all that was needed.

Anyone not agree with this? And do we think nVidia will be able to?

C.

Blacklash 07-09-08 01:55 PM

Re: The right price for the GTX200 family...
 
C if you want a GTX 260 to play with for 299usd straight up, there you go-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127361

Heinz68 07-09-08 02:02 PM

Re: The right price for the GTX200 family...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvearl (Post 1706664)
9800GTX - $189
GTX260 - $299
GTX280 - $399

I just about agree with your estimate.
Specially with most the rumors predicting that the GTX280 is not going to be much longer the highest performance cards. There are always few buyers who are willing to pay extra for little performance gain.

The problem Nvidia has, the AMD/ATI can reduce the price on the 4000 series even more (if needed), since they have lower manufacturing cost.

spajdr 07-09-08 02:11 PM

Re: The right price for the GTX200 family...
 
GTX 260 is already for 299 dollars as blacklash said, not only on newegg :)

cvearl 07-09-08 02:52 PM

Re: The right price for the GTX200 family...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacklash (Post 1706674)
C if you want a GTX 260 to play with for 299usd straight up, there you go-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127361

Hey thanks! That's $329 for that MSI?

But sadly newegg does not ship to Canada. However!... My local supplier www.memoryexpress.com has eVGA for $349. It's getting closer and closer.

Also I saw on Newegg they have the eVGA after discounts and MIR's the GTX260 at $299. THAT is where that card belongs. I bet it will be that soon here too.

My 4870 was $289 CDN. WOOT! Go exchange rate!

C.

cvearl 07-09-08 02:55 PM

Re: The right price for the GTX200 family...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spajdr (Post 1706685)
GTX 260 is already for 299 dollars as blacklash said, not only on newegg :)

Yup I am seeing some of those MIR deals out there. This is where it belonged. At $299 it's a viable alternative to the 4870 all the way. :)

Now if they can get the GTX280 to where it belongs. $469 I find on newegg is still a rip off. $399 and it's worth every penny. Although some of the people that bought a few weeks ago at $600 might not be impressed. :(

Good times!

C.

jcossin 07-09-08 03:05 PM

Re: The right price for the GTX200 family...
 
I totally agree on the GTX280 being way overpriced. $399 is the right level when you compare performance to the GTX260 which is now at $299 via deals here and there.

Right now I'm very happy with my 9800GX2. With VSync ON and Triple Buffering ON I find the games I am playing regularly (World in Conflict, Witcher, Quake Wars) to be butter smooth and I'm looking forward to the competition between AMD and nVidia heading to the end of this year when refresh parts come out!

hemmy 07-09-08 03:13 PM

Re: The right price for the GTX200 family...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvearl (Post 1706707)
Hey thanks! That's $329 for that MSI?

But sadly newegg does not ship to Canada. However!... My local supplier www.memoryexpress.com has eVGA for $349. It's getting closer and closer.

Also I saw on Newegg they have the eVGA after discounts and MIR's the GTX260 at $299. THAT is where that card belongs. I bet it will be that soon here too.

My 4870 was $289 CDN. WOOT! Go exchange rate!

C.

What exchange rate...a USD is still worth slightly more than a CAD

saturnotaku 07-09-08 03:27 PM

Re: The right price for the GTX200 family...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvearl (Post 1706707)
My 4870 was $289 CDN. WOOT! Go exchange rate!

C.

CAD $289 = USD $285.

Big savings.

I remember back in the day when I could buy hockey jerseys in Ontario for CAD $40. That was when the exchange rate was like US $1 = CAD $1.50. The same jerseys in the US were $50. Good times. :(

cvearl 07-09-08 04:40 PM

Re: The right price for the GTX200 family...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hemmy (Post 1706727)
What exchange rate...a USD is still worth slightly more than a CAD

Quote:

Originally Posted by saturnotaku (Post 1706739)
CAD $289 = USD $285.

Big savings.

I remember back in the day when I could buy hockey jerseys in Ontario for CAD $40. That was when the exchange rate was like US $1 = CAD $1.50. The same jerseys in the US were $50. Good times. :(

You two must be yungins... (no disrespect intended).

You have to understand that with the CAD exchange rate being even close to USD is a victory to a canuck hardware buyer from back in the day. Believe me. It seems paultry to you perhaps but maybe a decade of 70 cents on the dollar would give you a different point of view.

Had the 4870 come out 2 years ago? I would have had to pay more like $399. Hahaha. In general we always could add $100 - $150 to a video card to pick one up in Canuck land.

I guess you'd have to suffer through that to appreciate price parity. Until recently, Canadians were gouged and gouged hard on computer parts even on top of the 70 cents on the dollar crap we dealt with for years.

C.

Heinz68 07-09-08 06:27 PM

Re: The right price for the GTX200 family...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvearl (Post 1706707)
Hey thanks! That's $329 for that MSI?

But sadly newegg does not ship to Canada. However!... My local supplier www.memoryexpress.com has eVGA for $349. It's getting closer and closer.

Also I saw on Newegg they have the eVGA after discounts and MIR's the GTX260 at $299. THAT is where that card belongs. I bet it will be that soon here too.

My 4870 was $289 CDN. WOOT! Go exchange rate!

C.

EVGA E-GEFORCE GTX 260 After Mail In Rebate: $305.99 CAD (+ $15 Next business day delivery)
That is the lowest priced 260 I found In Canada it is from NCIX.com (fully Canadian own) located in Vancouver BC.
Could not match the price locally in Toronto also locally I would have to pay extra 8% Ontario Provincial Sales tax.
You oil rich guys from Alberta don't have to worry about that. So quit complaining about the prices. :)

By the way if Newegg was shipping to Canada I would also have to pay the sales taxes they are collected at custom office on anything priced over $20.-
Canadian Sales Tax (GST) 5% plus 8% Ontario Sales Tax (PST) = Total 13% in sales taxes, aren't you guys from Alberta lucky paying only the 5%.

Blacklash 07-09-08 07:57 PM

Re: The right price for the GTX200 family...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cvearl (Post 1706707)
Hey thanks! That's $329 for that MSI?

But sadly newegg does not ship to Canada. However!... My local supplier www.memoryexpress.com has eVGA for $349. It's getting closer and closer.

Also I saw on Newegg they have the eVGA after discounts and MIR's the GTX260 at $299. THAT is where that card belongs. I bet it will be that soon here too.

My 4870 was $289 CDN. WOOT! Go exchange rate!

C.

When you see the price in the cart it was 299usd for the MSI. No rebates to fool with either. Looks like Newegg has it back to 329. People in US should watch that card, it will probably, "cool off" again.

I did forget they still don't ship to Canada.:(

Enjoy your HD 4870. Hopefully there will be a price reduction up there on some of the 260s too so you can get one to play with if that is what you desire.


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