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gdphk 08-18-08 12:03 PM

NVIDIA says it will win back performance leadership this year
 
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Facebook Digg Slashdot Newsvine Delicious Stumble The two people we speak to are Nick Stam (pictured), the technical marketing director for GeForce and Bryan Del Rizzo, PR manager in the US. We start by asking them what they feel about losing the performance leadership.

"Is that interesting?" says Del Rizzo. "To some people maybe, but it took two of their GPUs to beat one of ours. We have had dual GPU cards and it's feasible that it may happen again."


That last point was intriguing. In our review of the 4870 X2, HEXUS.net editor Tarinder Sandhu said: "We'll have to wait for the GTX 200-series to go on a process diet, to 55nm, and then, just perhaps, we'll see a GX2 based on GeForce GTX 260."

While we're unable to draw either of them on whether or not this will happen, when we ask them if they expect to regain the performance leadership this year, Stam says "Yes".

That's as much as you're going to get on that topic for now and we move swiftly back to the 4870 X2. "Is that product the best product you can buy for a PC?" asks Del Rizzo. "A lot of people care about power consumption. Two GTX 260s have lower power consumption than one 4870 X2. In the Asia-Pacific region, for example, they're sensitive about power consumption."

Stam is keen to point out that he thinks NVIDIA's multi GPU platform has advantages over AMD's. "We've done our own testing of SLI vs Crossfire and we see a lot of issues with Crossfire. SLI is far more developed and doesn't have as many issues."

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Tr1cK 08-18-08 12:07 PM

Re: NVIDIA says it will win back performance leadership this year
 
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Originally Posted by gdphk (Post 1748733)
Stam is keen to point out that he thinks NVIDIA's multi GPU platform has advantages over AMD's. "We've done our own testing of SLI vs Crossfire and we see a lot of issues with Crossfire. SLI is far more developed and doesn't have as many issues."

Looks like NVs marketing is throwing stones in a glass house. They have just as many issues from what I have seen.

nekrosoft13 08-18-08 12:14 PM

Re: NVIDIA says it will win back performance leadership this year
 
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Originally Posted by Tr1cK (Post 1748740)
Looks like NVs marketing is throwing stones in a glass house. They have just as many issues from what I have seen.

true, there is only one advantage, ability to make your own SLi profiles.

buicks suck 08-18-08 12:20 PM

Re: NVIDIA says it will win back performance leadership this year
 
I honestly don't give a damn about performance considering how ati only uses brilinear filtering. That's wholly unacceptable.

hell_of_doom227 08-18-08 12:22 PM

Re: NVIDIA says it will win back performance leadership this year
 
Never had crossfire, but i can tell you that SLI works like charm.

gdphk 08-18-08 12:27 PM

Re: NVIDIA says it will win back performance leadership this year
 
GTX 260 GX2 will kicks the 4870x2's Ass :nutkick:

Tr1cK 08-18-08 12:42 PM

Re: NVIDIA says it will win back performance leadership this year
 
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Originally Posted by buicks suck (Post 1748767)
I honestly don't give a damn about performance considering how ati only uses brilinear filtering. That's wholly unacceptable.

Where the F do you pull this crap out of? Go away.

Is that some sort of bi- tri- combination? I'm sure not manufacturers support BRIlinear.

Madpistol 08-18-08 01:27 PM

Re: NVIDIA says it will win back performance leadership this year
 
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Originally Posted by buicks suck (Post 1748767)
I honestly don't give a damn about performance considering how ati only uses brilinear filtering. That's wholly unacceptable.

Where did you get that BS from? The IQ of ATI cards is exactly the same as Nvidia cards currently. That means they use bilinear, trilinear, and anisotropic filtering as their methods of texture filtering.

Serrasalmus 08-18-08 03:08 PM

Re: NVIDIA says it will win back performance leadership this year
 
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Originally Posted by buicks suck (Post 1748767)
I honestly don't give a damn about performance considering how ati only uses brilinear filtering. That's wholly unacceptable.

this guy fell off the retarded train looks like....

Medion 08-18-08 03:35 PM

Re: NVIDIA says it will win back performance leadership this year
 
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GTX 260 GX2 will kicks the 4870x2's Ass
The GTX260 is currently a bit behind a single HD4870 in performance, so no, not likely.

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Where the F do you pull this crap out of? Go away.

Is that some sort of bi- tri- combination? I'm sure not manufacturers support BRIlinear.
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Where did you get that BS from? The IQ of ATI cards is exactly the same as Nvidia cards currently. That means they use bilinear, trilinear, and anisotropic filtering as their methods of texture filtering.
"Brilinear" filtering is an optimization meant to give near tr-linear quality, at a near bi-linear performance hit. During the GeForce FX days, NV did this whenever you picked trilinear as an option, and they caught hell for it. With the 6/7 series, it was the default option, but going to HQ settings removed it.

ATI then started using the optimization on the Radeon 9600 series (the 9700/9800 don't use it). In a test, it shows up as full tri-linear, but in a game, it uses bri-linear. It was a cheat on their part, and not one of their better days. It was discovered when people found out through benchmarks that when using colored mipmaps, ATI cards would offer worse performance.

This was confirmed, again, on the Radeon 9600XT (the only r300 card to use it), as well as the entire r400 line. I haven't heard of anything on this subject with r500 and beyond. But, the only way to see it was in benchmarks. The quality difference really is negligible. Performance increases can be substantial in some cases though.

SH64 08-18-08 03:36 PM

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Just bring us a faster single GPU solution instead of xxxxX2's ..

Tr1cK 08-18-08 03:42 PM

Re: NVIDIA says it will win back performance leadership this year
 
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Originally Posted by Medion (Post 1748963)
stuff

This all may be true 5 years ago when NV was doing some sneaky optimizations as well. Today it is totally irrelevant.


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