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the lah 11-01-08 11:01 AM

New to graphic cards, have a question about upgrading to 260.
 
Ok, im looking to play the newest games with the highest setting but i have a few questions.

Here are my specs

Os:Windows Vista™ Ultimate
Processor:AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+ (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz
Memory:1022MB RAM
Motherboard: Gigabyte ga-k8u-939
And the current graphics card i use which is Horrible cause i never upgraded this computer is a
RADEON X800 PRO
Power supply max: 450Watts (so i need to upgrade my power supply)

Now the questions, If i upgrade my graphics card to a evga geforce 260 could i play crysis in max or other games. Or do i need to upgrade my processor and ram?

What does changing the processor to a better one do for the games? Cause i really don't want a new processor.
And is it necessary to put more fans to avoid overheating?

Thanks so much for the help ! And great forum!

$n][pErMan 11-01-08 11:48 AM

Re: New to graphic cards, have a question about upgrading to 260.
 
Your CPU and RAM are going to limit you... ideally you need a full upgrade to get the benifits of a new video card.

the lah 11-01-08 11:54 AM

Re: New to graphic cards, have a question about upgrading to 260.
 
K i can upgrade ram , but how would a quad core change my gaming experience from a dual core? What are the benefits that are lost from using a dual core with a new video card? What parts of the game would change? Sorry for all these questions im just really new to this. Thanks for replying.

WeReWoLf 11-01-08 09:51 PM

Re: New to graphic cards, have a question about upgrading to 260.
 
It's not so much the benefits lost from using a dual core, it's just the 3800 X2 chip doesn't quite cut it for high performance anymore. If you want a very good dual core for gaming, look into an Intel E84/8500. Cheap (price vs. performance) and goes well with the GTX2** series.

kaptkarl 11-01-08 09:59 PM

Re: New to graphic cards, have a question about upgrading to 260.
 
Looking at your specs, you'll need a total upgrade....cpu, ram, and power supply if you plan to go with the GTX260 vid card. You'll need 2gig ram min, although 4 gig is best for Vista. I'd also recommend a 600W min power supply to handle an upgraded cpu and that GTX260 vid card. Not sure about your mobo though. I'm assuming it''s a PCI-E, or is it AGP? Obviously you'll need to get away from AGP for the best gaming performance. Check the specs to see what it will support as far as cpu. If you decide to keep the mobo, then go w/ 5600+ dual core cpu or faster if the board will handle it. I have that cpu in my sys and it's plenty fast enough for most gaming. Watch your cpu wattage if you keep the mobo...again check to specs.

Just a few tips....also shop around....prices are falling like crazy due to economic conditions. Yea!!

Kapt

K007 11-01-08 10:10 PM

Re: New to graphic cards, have a question about upgrading to 260.
 
What kind of mem is that?

anyway looking from that i would say u need some quality ram upgrade, psu and a cpu.

I wouldn't upgrade just yet, wait for the new intel chips to come out, this will bring the price down on the e8400 series and the quads also motherboard price will go down and the ram.

You could buy the psu/gpu now, see how it goes, but you will defiantly need a memory upgrade. also 1gb on vista = chug chug -.-

rage10 11-02-08 12:37 AM

Re: New to graphic cards, have a question about upgrading to 260.
 
If you get the gtx 260 you will have 128 mb of ram available for system operations because of the 896 mb frame buffer. That, coupled with vista is a no win situation. You need 3 gbs of ram or so minimum, 896 mg for the frame buffer and 2 gb for system operations.

the lah 11-02-08 10:21 PM

Re: New to graphic cards, have a question about upgrading to 260.
 
Ok ill install 2GB more memory and a new power supply, but i have one more question, how would i know if my motherboard can handle this card? The specs of the board can be found here, http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ProductID=1914 How would i know if it can use this graphics card or not?

Thanks a lot for all the replies!:)

WeReWoLf 11-02-08 10:42 PM

Re: New to graphic cards, have a question about upgrading to 260.
 
Off of Gigabyte's website: "Superb bandwidth AGP 8X graphics interface"

Right there tells you it won't work with the GTX260. GTX series is PCI Express, the X800 you have atm is AGP, and no they won't work together.

If you really want to get the 260, then you'll need at minimum a motherboard upgrade. If you're going to do that, you may as well pick up a faster CPU and some faster RAM as well.

saturnotaku 11-03-08 05:22 AM

Re: New to graphic cards, have a question about upgrading to 260.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WeReWoLf (Post 1831879)
If you really want to get the 260, then you'll need at minimum a motherboard upgrade. If you're going to do that, you may as well pick up a faster CPU and some faster RAM as well.

That being the case, he might as well wait a bit longer until the Core i7 processors come out. When that happens, the price of socket 775 (current Core2 Duo/Core2 Quad) processors and motherboards should drop even more.

WeReWoLf 11-03-08 07:04 AM

Re: New to graphic cards, have a question about upgrading to 260.
 
Saturn speaks the truth

john19055 11-07-08 01:55 PM

Re: New to graphic cards, have a question about upgrading to 260.
 
it acording to how much money he wants to spend ,He can get a pretty cheap upgrade that will be a lot faster then what he has.Intel E5200 wolfdale 2.5gigs with a 12.5 multipler for great overclocking $83 ,a Gigabyte GA-G31M-ES2L $55, 4Gigs G.Skill DDR2 1066 2 x 2gigs $75 ,BFG Tech 650watt $55 and a MSI GTX 260 $240 plus it has a $40 rebate makeing it $200.It comes out to $508 ($468 with rebate),The E5200 overclocks great ,able to do 4gigs with a good heatsink.The XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm for $32 with free shipping plus it has a $10 rebate.It is just as good as the Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme but half the price and comes with a fan.


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