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Rayman1968 02-10-09 09:42 PM

GTX285 and IE oddity
 
I recently installed a GTX285 in the system in my sig. Ever since doing this I've noticed that when I have an IE window open that has a scroll bar on the right, if I click and drag the bar it will lag a little bit behind the mouse pointer for a few moments. It's like the display inside the IE window isn't being drawn fast enough at first and then everything catches up and works normal (if that makes any sense, kinda hard to explain). I'm using the 181.22 drivers for Win XP Pro 32 bit.

Anyone else experience anything like this or know a fix for it?

Simple User 02-11-09 07:07 AM

Re: GTX285 and IE oddity
 
Disable smooth scrolling within Internet options sub-header browsing. It will be the last option. If Vista was to be in use change the configuration of the PCIe power management (link state power management) would be advisable too. It can cause a similar latency but more frequent, annoying, and not much of a power savings it seems.

To note, I noticed this too with my GTX 285 and 8800GTX using Vista.

Edit: I forgot to mention that it will still happen to some degree and I think it is due mainly to power management, but it will not be a severe as before.

DarkOneX 02-11-09 07:39 AM

Re: GTX285 and IE oddity
 
I have Vista and a GTX 285 and smooth scrolling is enabled in IE and I don't have this issue, my bar doesn't lag one bit no matter how fast I move my mouse the cursor stays right with the bar in the same spot. I think it must be something else.

Simple User 02-11-09 08:01 AM

Re: GTX285 and IE oddity
 
It is within the initial second of scrolling. If you do not see it within this segment of time, then it will seem smooth. It can happen more often with link state enabled as the links are retrained and it is similar to it but two separate instances of scroll rendering "lag."

It is not the scroll bar, per se. It is what is being rendered within the browser and is more noticeable if graphics are present rather than text, especially large graphics. Such as adverts, or just simple pictures.

Rayman1968 02-11-09 02:16 PM

Re: GTX285 and IE oddity
 
I'll look into the smooth scrolling when I get home. Prior to the GTX285 I was using 2 8800GTX's in SLI but didn't have this problem.

Thanks.

Rayman1968 02-11-09 06:29 PM

Re: GTX285 and IE oddity
 
Disabled smooth scrolling but the issue is still there.

$n][pErMan 02-11-09 06:45 PM

Re: GTX285 and IE oddity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkOneX (Post 1929148)
I have Vista and a GTX 285 and smooth scrolling is enabled in IE and I don't have this issue, my bar doesn't lag one bit no matter how fast I move my mouse the cursor stays right with the bar in the same spot. I think it must be something else.

Likewise.... I never had this issue on my 8800GTX and I don't have it now on my GTX285. I am using the most recent WHQL drivers as well...

Simple User 02-12-09 05:38 AM

Re: GTX285 and IE oddity
 
I did say on the previous post: Edit: I forgot to mention that it will still happen to some degree and I think it is due mainly to power management, but it will not be a severe as before.

It is easy to replicate because you only need to wait about a second or two and then scroll for this to happen. But this did happen with my 8800GTX before I upgraded to the 285 using Vista. The reason as to why I think it is power management related is that it is all too similar to having link state power management for PCIe enable, moderate or maximum, for Vista. When this is enabled it is very easy to discern and constant (worse). Seems as if the driver is not scaling the GPU properly. Modifying those two particular settings settings have had an effect that made it less noticeable, but it does not remedy. Also, it is worse in IE than in Chrome, which is mainly what I use.

Edit: So this is what we know that does not matter-architecture. We have Core i7 and Core 2 Duo's experiencing this and even recent and latter GPU's. Power management and smooth scrolling setting makes it worse. The previous 17x.xx driver, to my recall, did not experience this, but I did notice this with the 8800GTX and the recent drivers.

DarkOneX 02-14-09 08:23 AM

Re: GTX285 and IE oddity
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple User (Post 1929157)
It is within the initial second of scrolling. If you do not see it within this segment of time, then it will seem smooth. It can happen more often with link state enabled as the links are retrained and it is similar to it but two separate instances of scroll rendering "lag."

It is not the scroll bar, per se. It is what is being rendered within the browser and is more noticeable if graphics are present rather than text, especially large graphics. Such as adverts, or just simple pictures.

No I do not have this issue at all either, 0 lag whatsoever with the bar or inside the page when I'm moving the scrollbar, everything stays exactly with it no matter how fast or slow I'm moving it. It's not that I'm simply not noticing it either, I am extremely picky when it comes to graphix and video and notice the smallest stuff and I've never seen this issue before. G'luck in fixing it, that could be annoying. For what it's worth, I am using Internet Explorer 8 RC1 and have all power management stuff disabled.

Simple User 02-16-09 07:30 AM

Re: GTX285 and IE oddity
 
DarkOneX, I am Curious about this. Enable power management and open explorer and move a column boundary. Any one will do, does not need to be one in particular. Do you notice it then? Try IE now, any version will do.

I do use C1E and also the higher states up to C7 with the Core i7. I do not recall any of this when just using C1E in high performance mode with the Core 2 Duo. The first time I did notice this was with a default balanced state mode with link management on moderate. When that was disabled the difference was significant. If I was to use IE7 there was still a bit but not much as long as when smooth scrolling was disabled. In Chrome, my preferred browser, it does not do it much at all if any.

I noticed this first with my 8800GTX before I procured the 285, recently. I do not recall it at all when I did not allow much power management (high performance mode) with the Core i7.

DarkOneX 02-17-09 08:24 PM

Re: GTX285 and IE oddity
 
Enabled Power Saver mode and nope I still don't get any of this lag you speak of.

Simple User 02-18-09 06:05 PM

Re: GTX285 and IE oddity
 
Still an occurrence with the 182.06 drivers


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