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Kain 05-26-10 08:39 AM

Retail vs. Steam
 
Generally, which "format" do you prefer to buy your PC games?

One more thing! Is it true that once you install and use any recent PC game, you cannot sell it because the key has been used?

six_storm 05-26-10 08:42 AM

Re: Retail vs. Steam
 
Steam. Less crap in my house and I can install/uninstall as many times as I want.

nekrosoft13 05-26-10 08:43 AM

Re: Retail vs. Steam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by six_storm (Post 2258293)
Steam. Less crap in my house and I can install/uninstall as many times as I want.

ok, but some games still have activation limits.

grey_1 05-26-10 08:58 AM

Re: Retail vs. Steam
 
I'll usually go for whatever has the best price. If they are both the same, then I'll get it off steam.

NarcissistZero 05-26-10 09:14 AM

Re: Retail vs. Steam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by six_storm (Post 2258293)
Steam. Less crap in my house and I can install/uninstall as many times as I want.

What does Steam have to do with the latter part of that? They have activation DRM on Steam as well, in many cases when the retail copy does not like Risen and Batman: AA.

Anyway, I prefer retail. Steam is very convenient, but you pay for that convenience with extra DRM and an annoying client, which is not appealing to me. If a game is Steamworks I don't avoid it, and for multiplayer games I actually like Steamworks, but for a non-Steamworks game I don't see why I should pay the same amount of money for more DRM, more hassles and less product (i.e. no packaging, manual or perhaps extras).

Plus on principle I feel like people are throwing consumer rights out the window for the convenience of downloading things from home, be it games on Steam or movies on iTunes, and I dislike the road that is leading us down. One day we will own nothing, ever, and everything will be streamed and service-based, and people who support Steam and iTunes and other such things are paving the way for that. I don't want to be a part of it when I don't have to be.

Lfctony 05-26-10 09:15 AM

Re: Retail vs. Steam
 
Retail. The 50-100% extra that you pay when buying from Steam... MEH!!!

NarcissistZero 05-26-10 09:21 AM

Re: Retail vs. Steam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lfctony (Post 2258303)
Retail. The 50-100% extra that you pay when buying from Steam... MEH!!!

True, cost on Steam is actually higher most of the time, even in the US. Steam may have weekend deals that are nice, but so does Gogamer and Amazon, and on new titles amazon often sells at much lower prices, often with $10 gift certificates toward your next purchase.

On Alpha Protocol I got the game for $6 off when I pre-ordered it, which is $44. Then I got a $10 gift certificate for amazon.com with purchase, which makes it $34. I get free release-day shipping as an amazon prime member as well, and anyone can get free shipping of the 3-5 day delivery variety.

Steam wants the full $50.

So, $34 versus $50, and the cheaper copy gets packaging and a disc, so you don't have to download it all or burn a backup, and also you are supporting point of sale rights for consumers, rather than account-based ownership.

Seems like a no-brainer to me.

ViN86 05-26-10 09:22 AM

Re: Retail vs. Steam
 
Steam. No CD's, no keys to worry about, and I can access/install my games anywhere and on any of my machines even if I forget to bring the disc with me. (I shuttle back and forth between Boston and Albany often)

Quote:

Originally Posted by NarcissistZero (Post 2258302)
Anyway, I prefer retail. Steam is very convenient, but you pay for that convenience with extra DRM and an annoying client, which is not appealing to me. If a game is Steamworks I don't avoid it, and for multiplayer games I actually like Steamworks, but for a non-Steamworks game I don't see why I should pay the same amount of money for more DRM, more hassles and less product (i.e. no packaging, manual or perhaps extras).

When you never play online I can see how you would find the client annoying. But I use the client to connect with friends and chat. Also the overlay in game is extremely convenient, but that can be used with any game.

six_storm 05-26-10 09:24 AM

Re: Retail vs. Steam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nekrosoft13 (Post 2258295)
ok, but some games still have activation limits.

The only games I have with activation limits blow, so I've installed once, played and uninstalled. ;)

|MaguS| 05-26-10 09:25 AM

Re: Retail vs. Steam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ViN86 (Post 2258305)
Steam. No CD's, no keys to worry about, and I can access/install my games anywhere and on any of my machines even if I forget to bring the disc with me. (I shuttle back and forth between Boston and Albany often)



When you never play online I can see how you would find the client annoying. But I use the client to connect with friends and chat. Also the overlay in game is extremely convenient, but that can be used with any game.

Yup, I love steam. I rather have the "annoying" client over a physical media.

WeReWoLf 05-26-10 10:16 AM

Re: Retail vs. Steam
 
steam for me, because in most cases, the games are cheaper than in stores.

Yaboze 05-26-10 10:22 AM

Re: Retail vs. Steam
 
A mix of both, depending on price and such. I like the no-cd thing, but sometimes the prices are full MSRP on Steam and discounted elsewhere.


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