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Rakeesh 07-01-11 12:41 AM

Need some comments on this deal
 
So I went by fry's electronics to pick up some appliances, and made a quick visit to the computer components and scored this deal (newegg links for reference):

Intel i7 2600k $279.99
MSI P67A-C43(B3) $90.99
Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3 9-9-9-24 $64.99

I bought it today because the deal for these prices expired today, and figured I'd do further research when I got home (they were about to close, so I didn't want to miss out on this because I can always come back and return it.) I'm upgrading to this from a Core 2 Quad Q6700 build I made almost four years ago. After shopping around online, the prices I paid are $20+ each better than what I could get them for anywhere else; so far so good.

However I then read some reviews of the 2600k in a few places suggesting that the 2500k is a better value if you are mainly just gaming, although the best price I can find for the 2500k online is only $60 less than what I paid for the 2600k. That said, would anybody who has experience with these processors care to comment on whether or not it would be a good idea to return the 2600k and pick up a 2500k instead? (there are no restock fees.)

Also one big reason I am upgrading this year is because I will want to play Skyrim when it comes out, otherwise I was going to wait until November. Another reason is that I'm about to buy a new SSD (my current 80gb one is just too small) and was going to pick up a SATA3 based OCZ Vertex 3 SSD, and my current mobo is only SATA2, so the extra speed would go to waste, but I don't want to buy a slow one now and then still have that slow one later. With these two in mind, this seemed like a pretty opportune deal.

I haven't upgraded my computer in over four years, so I'm not very up to speed on what may be coming right around the corner. So any comments on what I might want to wait for, or if I could get a better deal doing something else? Also one of the sales guys I talked to was suggesting getting an i7 950 with tripple channel memory instead, which may perform better yet cost less. I'm very dubious of that, but I've been out of the loop for 4 years.

mullet 07-01-11 01:07 AM

Re: Need some comments on this deal
 
Well it depends on how much you are trying to save money. If 60 bucks is a big deal get the 2500. I would not get the i7 950. I only have my 2600k @ 3.8 and it is so much faster then my old 775 x3350 it's not even funny. I got the Intel 510 120GB for the reliability, they are having some issues with the Vertex drives right now but I don't know all of the details so research that first. I did get get a boot time of 11 seconds which blew me away. I think you got a damn good deal on those parts. IMO I would stick with what you have even though I am partial to ASUS boards. If you do get a 2500 dump the 60 back into a better board.

Rakeesh 07-01-11 01:23 AM

Re: Need some comments on this deal
 
Well part of the deal was that if I buy any intel CPU I get 20% off of any MSI motherboard, hence my decision for MSI. And then on top of that, the 2600k was on sale, everything else was normal price though. I've had bad luck with ASUS myself anyways though, and newegg seems to give this particular motherboard good reviews, and it does SATA3 so I went with it.

Also my only hesitation with the intel 510 drives is that they use the marvell controller which is a lot slower than intel's own controllers from what I hear (though why they didn't use one is a mystery.)

mullet 07-01-11 01:47 AM

Re: Need some comments on this deal
 
I am a SSD noob but it seems pretty damn fast to me, I know the vertex 3 is much faster but I did like popping the 510 in and installed like a champ.

Rakeesh 07-01-11 02:01 AM

Re: Need some comments on this deal
 
I just found a deal for $200 after rebate a Vertex 3 120GB, tigerdirect.com $2.92 shipping, probably going to order that. Anybody have any experience with tigerdirect?

grey_1 07-01-11 07:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rakeesh (Post 2451336)
I just found a deal for $200 after rebate a Vertex 3 120GB, tigerdirect.com $2.92 shipping, probably going to order that. Anybody have any experience with tigerdirect?

I've gotten into a lot of discussions with I.T.s I meet on the job who swear by tigerdirect. I've never used them but I'm thinking of ordering from them next build just based on these recommendations.

WRT your new system - sweet! Another 2-3 months for me depending on circumstances here, can't wait....

JaxMacFL 07-01-11 08:10 AM

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You might consider going at least 240GB with your ssd. Either two 120s or one 240. That extra 40GB over your 80 really isn't that much extra room. It will fill up pretty fast.

Bman212121 07-01-11 11:02 AM

Re: Need some comments on this deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rakeesh (Post 2451336)
I just found a deal for $200 after rebate a Vertex 3 120GB, tigerdirect.com $2.92 shipping, probably going to order that. Anybody have any experience with tigerdirect?

Yup they are decent. Bought lots of stuff from them over the years.


If you really are concerned about cost then I could see getting a 2500K instead of a 2600K. Otherwise there is always a chance you might be able to use the HT in the future. I still need to RMA my board cause it's one of the first models. MSI P67-GD55. Been running fine since I've had it.

Rakeesh 07-01-11 02:01 PM

Re: Need some comments on this deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JaxMacFL (Post 2451379)
You might consider going at least 240GB with your ssd. Either two 120s or one 240. That extra 40GB over your 80 really isn't that much extra room. It will fill up pretty fast.

I was thinking the same thing at first, and was prepared to drop $500 on a new ssd, but instead what I think I am going to do is install the less disk dependent apps on the 80gb drive. Worst case scenario I need a second 120gb drive, and if I buy two 120gb drives I'll spend $150 less than if I had bought a 240gb drive.

bobkn 07-01-11 02:32 PM

Re: Need some comments on this deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rakeesh (Post 2451321)
Also one of the sales guys I talked to was suggesting getting an i7 950 with tripple channel memory instead, which may perform better yet cost less. I'm very dubious of that, but I've been out of the loop for 4 years.

The I5-2500k or I7-2600k will outperform any of the triple channel (X58 motherboard) chips for gaming. The 2600k apparently outperforms even the expensive six core Gulftown CPUs for most (not all) applications. The k suffix (unlocked multiplier) Sandy Bridge CPUs are also easy to overclock above 4 GHz. (Get a third party CPU cooler.)

The memory controller performance on the Sandy Bridge CPUs is also better than on the first generation chips, so that will partly make up for the dual channel limitation.

My main complaint with the P67/Z68 motherboards is that it appears to be easier to brick them than for the older boards. I don't know why, it may have something to do with uEFI. (MSI uses a hybrid BIOS/EFI system that is still supposed to support booting from GPT disks.) I'm on my third board. I'd never rendered a motherboard unbootable before, in 14 years of BIOS updates.

Redeemed 07-01-11 02:35 PM

Re: Need some comments on this deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobkn (Post 2451534)
The I5-2500k or I7-2600k will outperform any of the triple channel (X58 motherboard) chips for gaming. The 2600k apparently outperforms even the expensive six core Gulftown CPUs for most (not all) applications. The k suffix (unlocked multiplier) Sandy Bridge CPUs are also easy to overclock above 4 GHz. (Get a third party CPU cooler.)

The memory controller performance on the Sandy Bridge CPUs is also better than on the first generation chips, so that will partly make up for the dual channel limitation.

My main complaint with the P67/Z68 motherboards is that it appears to be easier to brick them than for the older boards. I don't know why, it may have something to do with uEFI. (MSI uses a hybrid BIOS/EFI system that is still supposed to support booting from GPT disks.) I'm on my third board. I'd never rendered a motherboard unbootable before, in 14 years of BIOS updates.

I still laugh at people whom hint that an x58 platform is insufficient for gaming. The only bottleneck in my rig is my 5770. I've yet to find a task that my system can't do adequetely. And I don't OC anymore. :lol:

That said, considering how cheap a 2600k system would be compare to an x58 based system... for a ground up build the 2600k is the way to go. :)

Rakeesh 07-01-11 03:44 PM

Re: Need some comments on this deal
 
I'm running a 5770 as well :D I like how nice and cool it runs so I haven't wanted to upgrade it just yet because these console ported games don't really take advantage of anything faster. I'll probably upgrade it around the time that skyrim comes out. The nice thing about the 2600k is that it has a lower tdp than my q6700 so it will run cooler while being much faster.


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