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OldOfEvil 08-13-03 04:34 AM

5800 Ultra is good.
 
I got my 5800 Ultra in a few days ago and must say i'm impressed at how fast the card is. 1600x1200 and the d3 Alpha is playable, or a big UT 2003 match with max deatils runs peachy and I can actualy play NWN ( at 1600x1200 to boot ) with out CTD every 10 seconds..

just my .02 cents..
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Lfctony 08-13-03 10:16 AM

Its a good card not matter what. The normal 5900 is most times slower, it only manages to edge in front of it only when memory bandwidth comes into the situation. I know I'm happy with mine.

jAkUp 08-13-03 11:16 AM

the regular 5900 is not slower... in some few very rare situations it is

bkswaney 08-13-03 01:10 PM

The 5800U is great as long as u don;t need AA/AF.
It's a real dog if u do tho. :)

I loved mine. But I need more then FPS.
I need FPS with AA/AF. ;)

walkndude 08-13-03 05:26 PM

If you want an idea of performance differences between the 5800 series and the 5900 series check out dave's 5900 review over at beyond3d.

You'll see the difference between the cards is 4x aa performance which can be attributed to the migration to a 256 bit architecture.

If a game is hurtin performance wise with a 5800 while using 4x aa your best bet is to raise the resolution and drop to 2x aa.

ricercar 08-13-03 10:43 PM

I fully agree
 
Love my NV30s. Played with an engineering sample, and I own a PNY 5800 Ultra plus an ASUS 5800 decaf. They do UT2003 and Morrowind fine enough that the NV35 hasn't tempted me too much.

B&R 08-13-03 11:14 PM

hmm yeah it is great without AA/AF and also i have a feeling it is goin to be better when more demanding games come out.*Jus a thought*

Lfctony 08-14-03 03:15 PM

Read this:
http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardwa...ew/default.asp

The normal 5900 is outperformed by the 5800U in 95% of the "normal" tests and in 70% of the tests the 5800U beats the 5900U as well! It comes first in a pretty fair amount of tests. It begins losing ground when AA/AF are turned on, but even then, sometimes it does manage to beat the extra 10GB memory bandwidth of the 5900. It follows very closely behind in the other cases, VERY closely behind. That monstrous texel fillrate does come handy.

PreservedSwine 08-14-03 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lfctony
Read this:
http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardwa...ew/default.asp

The normal 5900 is outperformed by the 5800U in 95% of the "normal" tests and in 70% of the tests the 5800U beats the 5900U as well! It comes first in a pretty fair amount of tests. It begins losing ground when AA/AF are turned on, but even then, sometimes it does manage to beat the extra 10GB memory bandwidth of the 5900. It follows very closely behind in the other cases, VERY closely behind. That monstrous texel fillrate does come handy.

Out of about 20 reviews I've read that show the 5800U, I'm left to wonder why that's the only one performing well w/ AA and AF:confused:

OldOfEvil 08-15-03 04:07 AM

After seeing UT2k3 in 1600x1200, why bother with AA? As for AF, well, most of the time I don't even use it, it looks better with it on true, but I don't normaly notice at the frantic pace the UT sets..
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PreservedSwine 08-15-03 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OldOfEvil
After seeing UT2k3 in 1600x1200, why bother with AA? As for AF, well, most of the time I don't even use it, it looks better with it on true, but I don't normaly notice at the frantic pace the UT sets..
I guess if you have a moniter that supports decent refresh rates@1600x1200, it may not be *as* important, but after seeing screenies 1600x1200 compared to good 4xfsaa, I prefer FSAA. But maybe that's just me, especially when it comes to reading text.

Anyway, you have a great card, with little FSAA, it a screamer:)

Lfctony 08-15-03 01:15 PM

The 5800U doesn't perform bad with AA/AF, but it does perform worse than other cards. That doesn't necessarily mean that the card is bad. Its certainly not worth going to a 5900 from a 5800U, you'll gain some and lose some, since in games like DoomIII the 5800U is actually faster.In any game where fillrate matters more than MBW, the 5800U is faster.


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