AMD claims next-gen Xbox will do Avatar-quality graphics
 

http://www.examiner.com/game-news-in...#ixzz1SMcwzkyy
http://www.computerandvideogames.com...ke-avatar-amd/



I do not for one second believe that. I recall Seamus Blackley said the original Xbox would provide graphics like Toy Story.
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1040-250632.html

10 years later we're still not even there [at Toy Story level] with high-end PC cards that have 10x-20x the graphics performance of current-gen Xbox 360 and PlayStation3 consoles. So there is no possible way that Xbox3 or PS4 will possibly get close to Avatar graphics. Maybe try thinking, perhaps, 3 more console generations from now with the Xbox5 around 2025-2030, LOL.

Re: AMD claims next-gen Xbox will do Avatar-quality graphics
 

Re: AMD claims next-gen Xbox will do Avatar-quality graphics
 

and without charging $100 per game, how will game devs balance return on their investments with such high levels of detail?

Re: AMD claims next-gen Xbox will do Avatar-quality graphics
 

This is total nonsense. The computers that created Avatar couldn't deliver those type of graphics in real time. They cost a heck of a lot more, and are are more sophisticated in terms of capabilities (processor, graphics, memory, bandwidth, etc.), than a $300+ toy yet the toy is going to deliver those graphics in real time? Whatever.

I suppose this could be some sort of a gimmick. Maybe those graphics can be done on the Xbox720 but just not in real time. Sort of like how some people claim the PC can do photo quality graphics the rub being it just can't do them in real time so we still have... video game graphics.

As the abilities of each individual in a crowd, that again depends. For an example, if there are only 5 people in a crowd then sure, those claims are correct.

Re: AMD claims next-gen Xbox will do Avatar-quality graphics
 

Technically it can do Avatar-quality graphics today...





The Far Cry 2 Engine game Avatar :p

Re: AMD claims next-gen Xbox will do Avatar-quality graphics
 

LOL

We've seen the next gen engines from Unreal, it looks good, but not THAT good. Given the current console market share 3.0 has, I think it's safe to use it as a benchmark.

Re: AMD claims next-gen Xbox will do Avatar-quality graphics
 

Besides, in order to do Avatar type graphics, there will have to be Ray Tracing involved. Between the processing and bandwidth involved for such a thing, it's not going to happen on the Xbox720. The next Xbox perhaps, but not this one.

Unless we are looking at a freak system with 12 CPU cores, Crossfire, and perhaps several AMD GPUs used in some sort of OpenCL capacity for mega processing power. I still doubt that would work though...

Re: AMD claims next-gen Xbox will do Avatar-quality graphics
 

Sure it will, because it's only going to be 10 years before we see another console.

Re: AMD claims next-gen Xbox will do Avatar-quality graphics
 

You know, I do seem to recall reading something where it appeared the next Xbox wasn't going to come out prior to 2015. PS4 is rumored to appear next year but that doesn't mean the Xbox has to come out as well.

Re: AMD claims next-gen Xbox will do Avatar-quality graphics
 

lol I think what they meant was "1080p" .... That's a pretty lofty goal considering the capabilities of current consoles

Re: AMD claims next-gen Xbox will do Avatar-quality graphics
 

if they could do it, we'd already be seeing it on the PC.

Re: AMD claims next-gen Xbox will do Avatar-quality graphics
 

Raytracing was not used for everything, mainly for a pre-processing step when calculating GI into pointcloud/spherical harmonics and refraction/reflection. (pre-processing pass used GPUs for tracing)
Actual rendering was done with prman. (pixars renderman a micropolygon rasterizer)

First problem in rendering assets from Avatar would be memory usage, texture maps for each character were tens of GB.
Rendering character also would need full character rigging from the movie which included muscle and flesh simulations and so on.

All this woud be before any rendering can be done..
So no we will not be seeing the quality with next gen machines, not even close.

If the GPU in nextbox is DX12/SM6 GPU we will see some amazing things though. ;)
I fully expect things like this voxel conetracing for GI will be common place in next generation.