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K007 10-23-11 02:39 AM

Modern Warfare 3 Benefiting From Battlefield 3 Origin Deal
 
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One business decision that might come back to bite Battlefield 3 this year is the decision to forgo using Valve's Steam distribution channel for their upcoming release. While Battlefield 3 is still a week away from release, the competition (Modern Warfare 3) is steadily topping the list of best selling games.

Since September, Modern Warfare 3 has been in the top ten best selling games on Steam according to Valve. Over the past few years, the Call of Duty franchise has proved to be an experience that is developed for consoles and ported to PC, but Infinity Ward has suggested that they are focused on recapturing their PC audience. A bungled Call of Duty: Black Ops release on PC left many Steam users unable to play the game without tinkering with console commands, and the still it took Treyarch many months to get the game working properly. These problems don't seem to be slowing down pre-orders of the game however. While all of this popularity can't be soley attributed to the lack of availabilty of Battlefield 3, it's certainly leaving Steam loyalists with limited options.
http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/mo...3-origin-deal/

Ninja Prime 10-23-11 03:42 AM

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Benefiting From Battlefield 3 Origin Deal
 
Oh they most certainly have lost 400,000 to 500,000 sales due to the steam thing, and probably most of those went and bought MW3 instead. Of course, in the grand scheme of things, when they probably will sell 4-5 million, its only 10%, I guess for EA, getting you to use their crappy adware instead of steam was worth those sales.

nutcrackr 10-23-11 03:57 AM

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Benefiting From Battlefield 3 Origin Deal
 
They won't lose any sales because when they eventually bring it to steam the stubborn people who refuse to use other DD services will pick it up.

K007 10-23-11 04:31 AM

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Benefiting From Battlefield 3 Origin Deal
 
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Originally Posted by nutcrackr (Post 2493619)
They won't lose any sales because when they eventually bring it to steam the stubborn people who refuse to use other DD services will pick it up.

if it doesn't get put on steam this monday, then there won't be any chance it will come out as it has missed the window

Sean_W 10-23-11 04:33 AM

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Benefiting From Battlefield 3 Origin Deal
 
It's their decision, so what? Steam users will buy the game if they want it regardless and MW3 will sell good regardless.

Peoples-Agent 10-23-11 05:56 AM

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Benefiting From Battlefield 3 Origin Deal
 
Just because it isn't on Steam and sales are lost, doesn't mean they aren't turning the same or more profit.

40 on Origin for this game over here, which is basically the price of a console game at retail. Excessive.

Cutting out the middle man will benefit them in the long run.

Logical 10-23-11 11:50 AM

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Benefiting From Battlefield 3 Origin Deal
 
I don't think the Devs on both sides will be dissapointed at how well the sales of both games do....

MW3 will sell millions for name alone, BF3 will sell millions because it looks and plays better than anything i have ever seen. Crysis mods don't count....

Also the sales of DX11 cards will go through the roof so Nvidia will be laughing too...

bacon12 10-23-11 11:58 AM

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Benefiting From Battlefield 3 Origin Deal
 
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Originally Posted by slaWter (Post 2493624)
Who cares which game sells more...

That would be EA and Activision.

Q 10-23-11 01:15 PM

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Benefiting From Battlefield 3 Origin Deal
 
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Originally Posted by slaWter (Post 2493706)
Exactly.

It does not matter to us.

Actually, it DOES matter to us.

I'm going to make these assumptions:
  • Most PC gamers prefer Steam over Origin.
  • Most PC gamers would prefer not to run multiple clients to access their gaming libraries.

If BF3 does remarkably well (and relative to MW3) despite the absence on Steam, it is only going to embolden EA and push more games to Origin and eventually to Origin exclusively. We're going to end up having half of the PC games on Steam and half on Origin. This alone wouldn't be an issue, but then we have one off games like GTA4 that need GFWL logins to play as well. Combine this with activation limits and other interactive DRM (if a legit user never sees the DRM or is effected, who cares?), the PC starts becoming a platform of hurdles again.

It's not as doomsday-like as I'm making it out to be, but another major provider of games needing another login and another client and another service is going to make the PC harder to use and that's not good for anyone. Remember, gentlemen, we are NOT the average PC users. Hell, we're not even the average PC gamer. The simpler we keep the platform the more people will use it and THAT means more and better games for us as PC users.

MW3 versus BF3 sales will help determine which way the industry goes. The question is will it be a major contributor or just a footnote?

mojoman0 10-23-11 01:54 PM

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Benefiting From Battlefield 3 Origin Deal
 
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Originally Posted by Q (Post 2493721)
Actually, it DOES matter to us.

I'm going to make these assumptions:
  • Most PC gamers prefer Steam over Origin.
  • Most PC gamers would prefer not to run multiple clients to access their gaming libraries.

If BF3 does remarkably well (and relative to MW3) despite the absence on Steam, it is only going to embolden EA and push more games to Origin and eventually to Origin exclusively. We're going to end up having half of the PC games on Steam and half on Origin. This alone wouldn't be an issue, but then we have one off games like GTA4 that need GFWL logins to play as well. Combine this with activation limits and other interactive DRM (if a legit user never sees the DRM or is effected, who cares?), the PC starts becoming a platform of hurdles again.

It's not as doomsday-like as I'm making it out to be, but another major provider of games needing another login and another client and another service is going to make the PC harder to use and that's not good for anyone. Remember, gentlemen, we are NOT the average PC users. Hell, we're not even the average PC gamer. The simpler we keep the platform the more people will use it and THAT means more and better games for us as PC users.

MW3 versus BF3 sales will help determine which way the industry goes. The question is will it be a major contributor or just a footnote?


then blame valve for inventing steam. before it we didnt need any client to play a game

the article is bs anyways. when mw2 came out it was THE top seller on steam for like 3 months solid. nothing could touch it. Black ops lasted about 2 weeks before it was dethroned and hardly made the list within 2 months of release. BF3 will easily surpass MW3 in terms of PC sales, but consoles will still drive mw3 sales ultimately higher

Q 10-23-11 03:09 PM

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Benefiting From Battlefield 3 Origin Deal
 
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Originally Posted by mojoman0 (Post 2493727)
then blame valve for inventing steam. before it we didnt need any client to play a game

the article is bs anyways. when mw2 came out it was THE top seller on steam for like 3 months solid. nothing could touch it. Black ops lasted about 2 weeks before it was dethroned and hardly made the list within 2 months of release. BF3 will easily surpass MW3 in terms of PC sales, but consoles will still drive mw3 sales ultimately higher

I blame Microsoft for not inventing it first and making it the platform standard. We knew digital delivery was in the works for a while now, and Valve beat everyone to the punch by half a decade.

ViN86 10-23-11 04:55 PM

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Benefiting From Battlefield 3 Origin Deal
 
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Originally Posted by K007 (Post 2493625)
if it doesn't get put on steam this monday, then there won't be any chance it will come out as it has missed the window

Huh? Just because they don't put it on Steam at launch doesn't mean it won't come to Steam at all...

I don't know why everyone hates Origin so much. It's not like you can't use the Steam overlay with BF3. And BC2 wasn't integrated with Steam either, so the Steam overlay on BF3 is essentially the same thing.


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