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TheOneAndOnly 03-12-12 01:34 PM

How real people will use Windows 8 on the desktop
 
http://www.extremetech.com/computing...-desktop-video

Pretty much sums it up right there. Why is it that I feel like this is going to fail harder than Vista ever did...

six_storm 03-12-12 02:06 PM

Re: How real people will use Windows 8 on the desktop
 
LOL! That's hilarious. I agree that there is a disconnect between being on the desktop and going back to Metro. There's no Start button and unless you can place your mouse on the mid-right, you won't see the hidden "Start" icon. You can press the Windows key but most people don't use it on it's own.

Cute video about the iPad.

Cylphid 03-12-12 03:42 PM

Re: How real people will use Windows 8 on the desktop
 
I tried to come up with something witty about the video and failed, but not as badly as 8 will fail once it meets the average end user.

I foresee roll back coupons, like some oems made available to roll back to XP from Vista.

Q 03-12-12 04:21 PM

Re: How real people will use Windows 8 on the desktop
 
Wait for the full release. Beta means beta. The feedback they are getting will shape the product. I have the feeling that on first boot you're going to get a HUGE two button option screen.

Classic Desktop

Metro Touch Experience

Beta, people. Or, MS wants to commit corporate suicide.

TheOneAndOnly 03-12-12 04:47 PM

Re: How real people will use Windows 8 on the desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Q (Post 2535937)
Wait for the full release. Beta means beta. The feedback they are getting will shape the product. I have the feeling that on first boot you're going to get a HUGE two button option screen.

Classic Desktop

Metro Touch Experience

Beta, people. Or, MS wants to commit corporate suicide.

They have already gone on record as saying no to that scenario, at least according to Steven Sinofsky. They are already committed to this path. As in 'escalation of commitment'.

For anyone that doesn't know what that means, research 'Challenger accident' :(

Yes, the CP is beta. But the Metro start screen and Metro apps situation is here to stay. There may be some small usability changes to be made between now and RTM, but this is essentially what we will be using. I've read enough from the offical designers blogs and have been involved in enough past Windows betas to know that they are essentially sticking to this path. They have little choice now...

Cylphid 03-12-12 05:03 PM

Re: How real people will use Windows 8 on the desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Q (Post 2535937)
Wait for the full release. Beta means beta. The feedback they are getting will shape the product. I have the feeling that on first boot you're going to get a HUGE two button option screen.

Classic Desktop

Metro Touch Experience

Beta, people. Or, MS wants to commit corporate suicide.

I can't find the article I read, pretty recent. Some MS bigwig stated metro is here to stay and is what we will see in the final product. That was only 2-3 weeks ago.

I'll have the preview installed later tonight - it's funny how not_excited I am to test drive it. :lol:

TheOneAndOnly 03-12-12 05:29 PM

Re: How real people will use Windows 8 on the desktop
 
I have been testing it at work since it came out. Before that, the DP.

Trust me, it pretty much sucks on a desktop computer. The only reason I am learning it is due to the fact that I will have to support it through the consumer IT work I perform.
On a tablet, it is great. Not that I am a big fan of Metro, nor do I think it is better than iOS. It is not IMO.

But using it on a typical desktop computer while trying to actually get work done is extremely painful. And don't get me started on multi-monitors. They really need to sort that out yesterday...

If you are a Facebook or Twitter *****, this is the OS for you. For anyone that wants to get work done, run, don't walk...

Melfranks 03-12-12 07:25 PM

Re: How real people will use Windows 8 on the desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOneAndOnly (Post 2535888)
http://www.extremetech.com/computing...-desktop-video

Pretty much sums it up right there. Why is it that I feel like this is going to fail harder than Vista ever did...

If this guy were savvy enough to know the consumer preview even existed and had actually went to the trouble of installing it, he would have been savvy enough to figure out how it works.
Obviously he was not, and was set up to look like a fool.
A five minute tutorial, and no doubt one will ship with the RTM build, and he would have been completely up to speed.
Even one word, "corners", and he would have figured it out.

six_storm 03-12-12 07:32 PM

Re: How real people will use Windows 8 on the desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Melfranks (Post 2535971)
If this guy were savvy enough to know the consumer preview even existed and had actually went to the trouble of installing it, he would have been savvy enough to figure out how it works.
Obviously he was not, and was set up to look like a fool.
A five minute tutorial, and no doubt one will ship with the RTM build, and he would have been completely up to speed.
Even one word, "corners", and he would have figured it out.

You do know that the guy in the video was Chris Pirillo's dad right? Chris installed, sat his dad down and said "Use it".

I'm still excited to get my hands on the final version but I do dread the support I will have to provide my users when they migrate. But then again, we may never migrate them (unless they do it on their own), just say "We don't recommend it".

Melfranks 03-12-12 07:38 PM

Re: How real people will use Windows 8 on the desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by six_storm (Post 2535973)
You do know that the guy in the video was Chris Pirillo's dad right? Chris installed, sat his dad down and said "Use it".

That was my point, no one should be using a preview version unless they are savvy enough to use it.
Putting someone in front of an OS which has changed significantly with no instructions whatsoever is ridiculous.

six_storm 03-12-12 08:01 PM

Re: How real people will use Windows 8 on the desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Melfranks (Post 2535974)
That was my point, no one should be using a preview version unless they are savvy enough to use it.
Putting someone in front of an OS which has changed significantly with no instructions whatsoever is ridiculous.

I agree that no one should be using unless they know what they are doing. However, I believe that any OS should be easy enough to use that so almost anyone can sit down and eventually figure it out. Hope MS includes some tutorials or help items with Win8.

Shamrock 03-12-12 10:00 PM

Re: How real people will use Windows 8 on the desktop
 
And here is some info from Chris Pirillo's website.

http://www.lockergnome.com/windows/2...sumer-preview/

http://www.lockergnome.com/windows/2...-be-a-success/

And here is something you folks might be interested in, the old start menu

http://www.lockergnome.com/windows/2...-8-start-menu/


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