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Ninoot 12-17-03 03:14 PM

Oh my dear, have I got a whopper for you
 
hmm well it would be nice if i could REACH at least 1k in benchmark *cough*

Hi everyone, I am new here. My family plays a lot of games online and we notices how terrible framerate can be in some of these games. So anyhoo... we downloaded 3DMark03.

I am somewhat new to all this computer lingo stuff, but have a small foundation of it. The marks came out to be 922 3D marks. *cry*

http://service.futuremark.com/servle...projectType=10

here it is copied with my specs in case link doesn't work. Any HELP would be greatly appreciated. I know i need to upgrade my processor. However I thought by going from Geforce 4ti 4200 to Geforce fx 5200 256 DDR 128bit would have made a great difference, the games seem much much worse now! And anyway my old geforce 4 is dead so I can't go back to it >< any suggestions of what to do for my system? What is most important to invest in or upgrade or fix or change?? And what would you suggest all you wonderful godly computer savy people ! :)

Thank you...


3DMark03 Project Details
Project Info
Name

Description

Date

2003-12-17
Published

Full System Details Export Results in XML



System Configuration

General Information
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
DirectX Version 9.0b
Mobo Manufacturer
Mobo Model KT400-8235
AGP Rates (Current/Available) 0x / 4x, 8x
CPU AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1200 MHz
FSB 100 MHz
Memory 1024 MB

Display Information
Graphics Chipset NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Driver Name NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Driver Version 5.2.1.6
Driver WHQL Certified Yes
Video Memory 256 MB
Core Clock 250 MHz
Memory Clock 333 MHz

Sound Information
Sound Adapter Driver Name C-Media Wave Device
Sound Adapter Driver Version 5.12.1.31

Benchmark Settings
Program Version 3DMark03 Revision 4 Build 0
Resolution 1024x768@32 bit
Texture Filtering Optimal
Pixel Processing / Antialiasing None
Post Processing false
Vertex Shaders Optimal

Main Test Results
3DMark Score 922 3DMarks
CPU Score 182.0 CPUMarks

Detailed Test Results

Game Tests
GT1 - Wings of Fury 52.2 fps
GT2 - Battle of Proxycon 4.5 fps
GT3 - Troll's Lair 4.2 fps
GT4 - Mother Nature 4.7 fps

CPU Tests
CPU Test 1 20.8 fps
CPU Test 2 3.2 fps

Feature Tests
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 505.3 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 687.5 MTexels/s
Vertex Shader 4.1 fps
Pixel Shader 2.0 7.2 fps
Ragtroll 3.3 fps

Sound Tests
No sounds Not Supported
24 sounds Not Supported
60 sounds Not Supported

-=DVS=- 12-17-03 04:44 PM

heh im sorry for you but going from Geforce 4ti 4200 to Geforce fx 5200 256 DDR 128bit is a big downgrade !!

You could notice minimal speed increase starting from GFFX 5600 Ultra cards compared to GF 4

Consider these cards as upgrade
Nvidia 5600 Ultra , 5700+ , 5900+....
or Radeon 9600Pro, 9700+, 9800+....

fastguy94416 12-18-03 05:13 PM

The moral of the story, is never think a newer product is a better product, do your reserch

Ninoot 12-18-03 06:22 PM

hmmm... which would be better:

Geforce FX 5600 Ultra with 128MB DDR
GeForce FX 5600XT with 256MB DDR

I think the basic difference here is one has more DDR memory, but not sure difference between Ultra and regular is.

This computer is mostly used for gaming online which can be graphic intense: Everquest, Dark Age Of camelot, Diablo etc etc etc which would be a better card AND would this be better than the Geforce 4 TI 4200 and the card I currently have?

fastguy94416 12-18-03 06:30 PM

XT= good for ATI
XT= bad for nvidia, lower clocks ETC
right now memory is not an issue at 128 megs
5600 ultra would be a better choice, but the best may be a 9600XT (ATI), or a 9700pro, which i have. it's quite nice

Ninoot 12-18-03 06:58 PM

hmm, i think I have a lot more saving up to do lol...

btw in reference to your sig... men love evil, since they love us gals :)

fastguy94416 12-18-03 09:15 PM

Ah crap, we have a lady here. Kidding :) look me up, heres a shot :) (kidding)

http://rolphus.shackspace.com/FastGuy.jpg

Malfunction 12-18-03 10:14 PM

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Peace,

:rofl

-=DVS=- 12-19-03 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ninoot
hmmm... which would be better:

Geforce FX 5600 Ultra with 128MB DDR
GeForce FX 5600XT with 256MB DDR

I think the basic difference here is one has more DDR memory, but not sure difference between Ultra and regular is.

This computer is mostly used for gaming online which can be graphic intense: Everquest, Dark Age Of camelot, Diablo etc etc etc which would be a better card AND would this be better than the Geforce 4 TI 4200 and the card I currently have?

ATI Nvidia

Radeon 9600Pro/XT > Geforce FX 5600 Ultra with 128MB DDR > GeForce FX 5600XT with 256MB DDR

Ati best from all of the above , offcourse you can save some more and get better card though....

MaxBlade 12-20-03 12:29 PM

If you can try both ATI and Nvidia. Just make sure you can get a refund. Your allways gona get someone that will say ATI is better or Nvidia is better. Just because it runs great on there system does not mean it will run good on yours. If I were you I would save my money because a 5200 would be just flushing your money. We have some new cards coming out like the XGI and that should bring ATI and Nvidia down a little I would think.

MaxBlade 12-20-03 12:37 PM

"oops"

The_Keeper 12-21-03 11:12 AM

Ti 4200 better then FX 5900?
 
The benchmarks speak for themselves

I got a PNY GeForce FX 5900 128MB and it runs slower than my PNY GeForce4 Ti 4200 64MB

Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack Service Pack 1
Internet Explorer 6.0.2800.1106 (IE 6.0 SP1)

Motherboard:
CPU Type AMD Athlon XP, 2000 MHz (7.5 x 267) 2400+
Motherboard Name Asus A7V266-C (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 3 DIMM)
Motherboard Chipset VIA VT8366A Apollo KT266A
System Memory 768 MB (DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type Award Medallion (10/15/02)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port Communications Port (COM2)
Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1)

Display:
Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 (128 MB)
3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce FX 5900
Monitor Plug and Play Monitor [NoDB] (1321249529)

Multimedia:
Audio Adapter Creative SB Live! Value (CT4780) Sound Card


Benchmarks using Unreal Tournament 2003 Demo

UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2002-09-13_17.31]
Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 2021 MHz with 767MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 (5303)

ctf-citadel?game=engine.gameinfo exec=..BenchmarkStuffflybyexec.txt -benchmark -seconds=77 -nosound

43.826839 / 120.002022 / 310.040833 fps rand(6878)
Score = 120.257225

UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2002-09-13_17.31]
Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 2021 MHz with 767MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 (5303)

ctf-citadel?game=engine.gameinfo exec=..BenchmarkStuffflybyexec.txt -benchmark -seconds=77 -nosound

46.669445 / 121.173897 / 297.415009 fps rand(6878)
Score = 121.419373

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UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2002-09-13_17.31]
Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 2021 MHz with 767MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 (5303)

dm-antalus?spectatoronly=true?numbots=12?quickstart=t rue -benchmark -seconds=77 -exec=..\Benchmark\Stuff\botmatchexec.txt

17.247145 / 45.993103 / 83.146538 fps rand(28881)
Score = 46.016144


UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2002-09-13_17.31]
Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 2021 MHz with 767MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 (5303)

dm-antalus?spectatoronly=true?numbots=12?quickstart=t rue -benchmark -seconds=77 -exec=..\Benchmark\Stuff\botmatchexec.txt

8.129602 / 47.214043 / 85.405258 fps rand(28881)
Score = 47.239532

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UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2002-09-13_17.31]
Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 2021 MHz with 767MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 (5303)

br-anubis?spectatoronly=true?numbots=12?quickstart=tr ue -benchmark -seconds=77 -exec=..\Benchmark\Stuff\botmatchexec.txt

23.182434 / 65.594231 / 132.006607 fps rand(11570)
Score = 65.598808



UT2003 Build UT2003_Build_[2002-09-13_17.31]
Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600)
AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 2021 MHz with 767MB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 (5303)

br-anubis?spectatoronly=true?numbots=12?quickstart=tr ue -benchmark -seconds=77 -exec=..\Benchmark\Stuff\botmatchexec.txt

22.116615 / 67.264130 / 141.634109 fps rand(11570)
Score = 67.270065


From what I can see the Ti4200 outperformed the FX 5900 in all 3 tests?
Guess I'll stick with my 4200 and pack away the 5900 until DX9 becomes mainstream.


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