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oldsk00l 01-19-05 12:13 PM

mandatory monthly anti-ATI goodness
 
http://www.majeonline.com

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After checking the general concensus here:

http://www.linuxgames.com/news/feedb...ction=flatview

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Well now I can run Doom3, good. But 640x680 is still corrupted in every game that I play. In fact, any mode 800x600 or greater works fine. Any mode 640x480 or lower is corrupted and has been ever since I've used the ATI binary drivers including the one they just released. Does anyone have a solution of has encountered this before?


and here
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33800070

and here
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost...&postcount=136

and here
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33800183

It seems that ATI finally delivered on performance improvements to ut2004, but Doom3 still sucks on ATI hw in Linux.

Sooo...it took ATI over a year and a half to deliver decent ut2004 performance. This release is a step, a very small one, and it took ATI years to get this far.

Add this to no expected support for composite, and an inefficient 2d driver that is not likely going to be useful at _ALL_ for upcoming vector based desktop environments....ATI....YOU SUCK.

gram_vaz 01-28-05 01:40 AM

Re: mandatory monthly anti-ATI goodness
 
ati is known for not caring for computer enthusiast nerds like us. just like them ignoring us agp users in favor of pci-e. that doesn't mean they suck. they're just doing business.

oldsk00l 01-28-05 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gram_vaz
ati is known for not caring for computer enthusiast nerds like us. just like them ignoring us agp users in favor of pci-e. that doesn't mean they suck. they're just doing business.

It means they suck because they're doing bad business. nVidia states that Linux accounts for 1/4th of their workstation market, and that ain't peanuts.

nVidia accomplishes their linux support through smart development as well.

Yes, ATI SUCKS.

gram_vaz 01-28-05 07:32 PM

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*whispers* no they don't.

oldsk00l 01-28-05 09:53 PM

Re: mandatory monthly anti-ATI goodness
 
"If you choose the blue pill, you will forget what happened. Life will go on, and you may believe....whatever you want to believe"

So......500 million dollars of income for supporting Linux just makes you.....mediocre????

Whatever dude, I think you are grossly misinformed if you are under the impression ATI's linux support doesn't suck (or that ATI doesn't suck for that matter).

To each his own. Ignorance is bliss.

gram_vaz 01-28-05 10:34 PM

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lol, fanboy.

saturnotaku 01-28-05 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gram_vaz
lol, fanboy.

Better to be labeled a fanboy than a complete imbecile as I'm going to label you. The horrors of attempting to run an ATI card in Linux know no bounds. I've not tried it myself but know plenty of people who have, and it's not pretty. But this is a subject you clearly know nothing about since you don't even have an ATI card in your machine to begin with.

gram_vaz 01-28-05 10:53 PM

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actually i came from a 9600xt and i ran my ati card well in linux. i never gamed but then linux isn't exactly known to be a gaming os. i stay with windows for my gaming.

lol, why does everyone get so defensive about this? both ati and nvidia make solid cards. advantages and disadvantages with both.

ati = better in dx games, bad linux support
nvidia= better in opengl games, good linux support

now let's all take a breather and stop bashing.

oldsk00l 01-29-05 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gram_vaz
actually i came from a 9600xt and i ran my ati card well in linux. i never gamed but then linux isn't exactly known to be a gaming os. i stay with windows for my gaming.

lol, why does everyone get so defensive about this? both ati and nvidia make solid cards. advantages and disadvantages with both.

ati = better in dx games, bad linux support
nvidia= better in opengl games, good linux support

now let's all take a breather and stop bashing.

It's not bashing, rather, sneering.

However, I'm going with Sat's opinion that you are an imbecile. If you need anymore convincing, you don't need it from an nVidia forum...go to Rage3d's linux forum and you'll see probably more ati-bashing than we could ever do if we all rounded up and tried. I guess all those ATI users must be fanboys too.

saturnotaku 01-29-05 12:30 PM

Re: mandatory monthly anti-ATI goodness
 
Looks like ATIHeaven wants to have a Linux forum of their own. Link. Perhaps Terry Makedon should worry about getting his driver team to actually produce a Linux driver that doesn't suck instead of worrying about reaching out to the community. Stop the problem before folks have time to complain.

oldsk00l 01-30-05 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by saturnotaku
Looks like ATIHeaven wants to have a Linux forum of their own. Link. Perhaps Terry Makedon should worry about getting his driver team to actually produce a Linux driver that doesn't suck instead of worrying about reaching out to the community. Stop the problem before folks have time to complain.

I've dogged nVidia allot for lack of direct community participation.

After watching Collateral I can only think of "You're one of those guys who likes to *do* instead of talk, which is cool!"

Acid Rain 01-30-05 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gram_vaz
*whispers* no they don't.

(Chuckles out loud)

You sure are being sneaky with that, almost like you don't want everyone to hear...:rolleyes:


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