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Hambone 12-24-06 04:27 AM

E6600 + Zalman 9700 Temp Check Please (luv a newb - it's Christmas!)
 
Hi, I'm totally new to Intel OK'ing & C2D temps.

This is a new system for me. It's an an upgrade from a AMD 2500 Barton @ 3200 with a 6800GT AGP. Even without overclocking I have a big fat smile. The old system I built three years ago and it's only upgrade since was the video card two years ago. I am so very very happy. :)

I have all the grunt work down with the rebuild (OS/Software installation, Images, etc). Everything has been 100% stable for 3 days now and I'm ready too start O'clocking.

I think I might have botched the thermal compound application by lifiting the HSF while mouting it (paranoid am I?). I just used the thermal goop that came with the 9700. I have a new tube of Artic Silver 5 but got too excited to put this new rig togather and the 9700 goop had that nice applicator brush. :p I'm just wondering if I should re-appy. The core temps at default clocks are higher than I expected.


From what I'ver read about the C2D:
60c - Max safe temp for no C2D damage risk
70c - Max safe temp


Rig
- Antec SOHO Fileserver Case
- PCP&C 750W Silencer
- x4 case fans. 27.8CFM / 21db
- Zalman 9700 HSF
- E6600
- EVGA 680i
- 2GB Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1000 @ Stock timings & 800
- EVGA 8800GTS


Room temp is cool ~ 70f


-TAT-
Windows Desktop:
Core 1: 34c
Core 2: 36c
note: during web browsing for 30m, I saw a couple of 42c spikes on Core2 for a single reading. But, only for one reading, then back down to 36c.

After Running Orthos for 30 minutes, the highest temps recorded by TAT were
Core 1: 48c
Core 2: 51c


If 60c is really the max temp for running a C2D without risk of damage... I only have 9c to play with (and it's winter - the room is cool).


Thanks for any help!
(xmassign)



edit: here's a (bad) pic of my box. I think I did OK at cleaning up the cables. I need to wipe it out though - it's 6 or 7 years old now. Anyway, It seems like it should have a good empty path for airflow. The 2nd front fan is in the bottom drive cage. I move all the drives out of there to give that fan an unrestricted line into the case.


http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/9781/image2jv4.jpg

agentkay 12-24-06 06:48 PM

Re: E6600 + Zalman 9700 Temp Check Please (luv a newb - it's Christmas!)
 
I think your temperatures are good! Mine are 55c at max load and at the lowest fan speed but Im not worried. Sure the room is around 7c cooler instead during a hot summer day but thats still within the margin where no permanent damage occurs. You also have to remember the 55c were archieved by dual Prime95 with the max. heat tests, and Im willing to bet there are no commerical games or programs that will heat up the CPU like dual Prime95 does (constant 100% load on both cores) for quite some time.

kam03 12-24-06 09:48 PM

Re: E6600 + Zalman 9700 Temp Check Please (luv a newb - it's Christmas!)
 
I got the NT version of Zalman 9700 with the auto fan speed.

CPU oc'ed to:

3456 Mhz
384 FSB x 9
V Core 1.475v

Max HSF fan speed = ~ 2700 rpm

Room temp 21 c

Idle

HSF @ 675 rpm i get:

EasyTune5 = 38 c
Core Temp, core 1 = 52 c
Core Temp, core 2 = 48 c

Orthos Full Load

HSF @ ~ 2400 rpm i get:

EasyTune5 = 56 c
Core Temp, core 1 = 64 c
Core Temp, core 2 = 64 c

Orthos Full Load

HSF @ ~ 2720 rpm

EasyTune5 = 54 c
Core Temp, core 1 = 63 c
Core Temp, core 2 = 63 c

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1...0065112ga5.jpg

Hambone 12-26-06 08:10 PM

Re: E6600 + Zalman 9700 Temp Check Please (luv a newb - it's Christmas!)
 
That makes me feel a bit better. I kept seeing things like "E6600 Max Temp = 60c" and "At idle I'm at 26c".

Thermal Past Redo:
I used some Artic Silver 5 as per the directions from their website for a C2D. I applied a single thin line directly over the chip area. This bought me about 2c better temps. Hopefully the temps will get a bit better when the AC breaks in (200hours their site says).

Zalman 9700 Problem?
-I mounted the bracket on where one side is pointing toward the RAM and the other side is pointing toward the rear of the case. I don't know if this is normal or not but while it seemed like it was on tight I could rotate it pretty freely.



I just did my first overclock:
-3.0Ghz
-Vcore: 1.40v

Under 100% load from a Prime95 instance on each core (1 hour into it) I'm getting temps that are bouncing around between 51c -to- 57c. The average seems to be about 54c on each core, although from looking at the TAT log they can stay around 52c for long periods. The 57c hit only happened once during the hour Prime95 has been on so far.


If 62c is OK I'll keep going. I just want to make it up to 3.4Ghz. :)

buffbiff21 12-27-06 12:33 AM

Re: E6600 + Zalman 9700 Temp Check Please (luv a newb - it's Christmas!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kam03

You are actually using the crappy thermaltake PCI holders? :eek:

That is quite a nice Christmas gift BTW.

And my Conroe loads at 65-70. Idles at 40-45. Vcore is 1.485 sumthin, i cant remember. But i have a few fan mods on my Armor... 5 thunderblades total. Purposely popped the LEDs sine the pic in my sig was taken, to rid my room of damn flourescent blue light...

Blacklash 12-27-06 04:33 AM

Re: E6600 + Zalman 9700 Temp Check Please (luv a newb - it's Christmas!)
 
If you really want to heat up your CPU more so than Orthos, try loading both cores with TAT as another test. It's brutal.

kam03 12-27-06 01:30 PM

Re: E6600 + Zalman 9700 Temp Check Please (luv a newb - it's Christmas!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hambone

Zalman 9700 Problem?
-I mounted the bracket on where one side is pointing toward the RAM and the other side is pointing toward the rear of the case. I don't know if this is normal or not but while it seemed like it was on tight I could rotate it pretty freely.



Yes, same with mine. It's the HSF.

nippyjun 12-28-06 12:35 AM

Re: E6600 + Zalman 9700 Temp Check Please (luv a newb - it's Christmas!)
 
Is it normal for each core to have a different temperature at full load?

kam03 12-28-06 12:09 PM

Re: E6600 + Zalman 9700 Temp Check Please (luv a newb - it's Christmas!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nippyjun
Is it normal for each core to have a different temperature at full load?

I'm not sure but if that's the case with your system then i guess the heat spreader on your CPU is uneven.

Try to tighten your HSF more and make sure the thermal paste is applied properly.

nippyjun 12-28-06 12:19 PM

Re: E6600 + Zalman 9700 Temp Check Please (luv a newb - it's Christmas!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kam03
I'm not sure but if that's the case with your system then i guess the heat spreader on your CPU is uneven.

Try to tighten your HSF more and make sure the thermal paste is applied properly.


I've been searching around some more and it looks like it's pretty common for a few degree difference. I don't know why that would be though.

Hambone 12-28-06 04:08 PM

Re: E6600 + Zalman 9700 Temp Check Please (luv a newb - it's Christmas!)
 
I ran this for 8 hours dual-Prime95 last night, no errors or warnings, I'm going to try and get down as low as I can in Vcore and overnight run again. I'm hoping to get down to 1.35v. Even a little off the top should make me feel better about the temps.

CPU: E6600
CPU SPEED: 3.46Ghz (3460.4)
CPU MULTIPLIER: 9
FSB SPEED: 1538
CPU vCore: 1.42v (BIOS set) 1.40v (BIOS Dispaly) 1.41v (SpeedFan - Idle desktop)
CPU FSB Voltage: [DEFAULT]
NFORCE SPP: DEFAULT]
PSU: PC POWER AND COOLING 750W SILENCER
COOLING: Zalman 9700 / x4 Case Fans (21db, 27.8 CFM)
CPU TEMP: w/ TAT .... 45C (desktop idel) 55C (gaming) 61C (Prime95 Average) 66C (Prime95 Peak)

kam03 12-28-06 07:18 PM

Re: E6600 + Zalman 9700 Temp Check Please (luv a newb - it's Christmas!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hambone
I ran this for 8 hours dual-Prime95 last night, no errors or warnings, I'm going to try and get down as low as I can in Vcore and overnight run again. I'm hoping to get down to 1.35v. Even a little off the top should make me feel better about the temps.

CPU: E6600
CPU SPEED: 3.46Ghz (3460.4)
CPU MULTIPLIER: 9
FSB SPEED: 1538
CPU vCore: 1.42v (BIOS set) 1.40v (BIOS Dispaly) 1.41v (SpeedFan - Idle desktop)
CPU FSB Voltage: [DEFAULT]
NFORCE SPP: DEFAULT]
PSU: PC POWER AND COOLING 750W SILENCER
COOLING: Zalman 9700 / x4 Case Fans (21db, 27.8 CFM)
CPU TEMP: w/ TAT .... 45C (desktop idel) 55C (gaming) 61C (Prime95 Average) 66C (Prime95 Peak)

Have you tried running it on orthos? i got errors with orthos on 1.42v


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