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baldbrad 01-06-07 09:29 PM

very very good OCing guide for C2D's
 
hey all,thought i'd post this very good OCing guides for C2D's that i stumbled upon.

It basicly walks you through it,my friend reached 3.1 on his e6400 on stock cooling with this guide and he has never overclocked before.

Check it,let me know what ya think,any additions that might be added by some of you OCing guru's?

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...ict197995.html

SlieTheSecond 01-06-07 09:51 PM

Re: very very good OCing guide for C2D's
 
Well I'll share some of my thoughts. I have e6400. I reached 3.2ghz on stock air, but I was running way too hot. Past 61c. So I put it back down to 3.0ghz. Even then on full load (large FFTs, dual prime95) I hit 63.5c.

I picked up Zalman CNPS9500AT heatsink/fan. Which put the temps to 43.5c full load. Now I am at 3.4Ghz and my temps don't go past 53c full load.

I had to set 1.5v in bios to to be stable at 3.4ghz. Although according to Pc Probe I am only using 1.395v.

I had prime95 running dual core fine for about 20 mins at 3.5ghz. But my temps hit 60c and well I don't want to run it that hot.

I know intel says 61c max. But thats at stock speeds and stock voltages. Being overclocked I don't want to go past 55c.

Originally I got a P5N-sli. And that board was crap! The northbridge heat sink was sooo hot at stock speeds I could barely touch it. And an overclock to 2.3ghz resulted in boot failure.

This P5B has been working great so far for me. (The one the guide says to not use)


That guide does not go into what the max temps should be for your cpu.
I don't know about the other ones, but for E6400 I would not go past 55c overclocked. People have gone past 61c and continue to run at those temps. But after a lot of researching, I have come to peace and mind at 55c.

I think the reason for not recommending the P5B is because with the old bios, your FSB is limited to 400mhz. FSB Termination is limited to 1.3v and ram is limited to 2.1v.

Well with the latest bios. FSB is limited to 650mhz and FSB Termination goes up to 1.45v. But the ram is still at 2.1v. But hey I am running just fine at 2.1 :)

tacos4me 01-08-07 08:44 PM

Re: very very good OCing guide for C2D's
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SlieTheSecond
Well I'll share some of my thoughts. I have e6400. I reached 3.2ghz on stock air, but I was running way too hot. Past 61c. So I put it back down to 3.0ghz. Even then on full load (large FFTs, dual prime95) I hit 63.5c.

I picked up Zalman CNPS9500AT heatsink/fan. Which put the temps to 43.5c full load. Now I am at 3.4Ghz and my temps don't go past 53c full load.

I had to set 1.5v in bios to to be stable at 3.4ghz. Although according to Pc Probe I am only using 1.395v.

I had prime95 running dual core fine for about 20 mins at 3.5ghz. But my temps hit 60c and well I don't want to run it that hot.

I know intel says 61c max. But thats at stock speeds and stock voltages. Being overclocked I don't want to go past 55c.

Originally I got a P5N-sli. And that board was crap! The northbridge heat sink was sooo hot at stock speeds I could barely touch it. And an overclock to 2.3ghz resulted in boot failure.

This P5B has been working great so far for me. (The one the guide says to not use)


That guide does not go into what the max temps should be for your cpu.
I don't know about the other ones, but for E6400 I would not go past 55c overclocked. People have gone past 61c and continue to run at those temps. But after a lot of researching, I have come to peace and mind at 55c.

I think the reason for not recommending the P5B is because with the old bios, your FSB is limited to 400mhz. FSB Termination is limited to 1.3v and ram is limited to 2.1v.

Well with the latest bios. FSB is limited to 650mhz and FSB Termination goes up to 1.45v. But the ram is still at 2.1v. But hey I am running just fine at 2.1 :)

I've done my reading as well, and people are far too concerned about their temps. While it's usually ideal to have any PC component as cool as possible, you really don't need to worry about your C2D until you get to around 75C+, as measured by TAT. Let me explain:

The Tjunction is at 85c. That's the temperature of the cores themselves at which you START to do damage, at least until the processor throttles itself down. TAT and Core Temp both read the Tjunction temperatures. Most motherboard monitor tools, like nVidia's, reads the case temp., which isn't an actual reading from either of the cores themselves, but rather a sensor placed nearby. The case temp. should be A LOT lower than Tjunction, for obvious reasons. :p

The C2D is rated at 61.4C case, and 85c Tjunction. Check TAT for Tj, and your BIOS or some motherboard monitor tool for case. If you're below both of thoes temps, you're golden. But yeah, it's best to stay as cool as possible, to keep your processor all nice and healthy for good long time. :o

Thought I'd type that out, because I know I searched quite awhile to find the answers myself. :) Personally, I'm fine with 75C. I realize that it was designed to be that hot. Not like I'll have it for more than a year anyway.

SlieTheSecond 01-09-07 12:29 AM

Re: very very good OCing guide for C2D's
 
Thermal Specification: The thermal specification shown is the maximum case temperature at the maximum Thermal Design Power (TDP) value for that processor. It is measured at the geometric center on the topside of the processor integrated heat spreader. For processors without integrated heat spreaders such as mobile processors, the thermal specification is referred to as the junction temperature (Tj). The maximum junction temperature is defined by an activation of the processor Intel Thermal Monitor. The Intel Thermal Monitor’s automatic mode is used to indicate that the maximum TJ has been reached.

Which is 61.4C for the E6400.

Now I came across a post (I did a quick look in my bookmarks but I guess I forgot to bookmark it, still might be able to find it) where a user placed a temperature sensor directly on top of the IHS. This sensor was designed to be placed between the heat sink and cpu. Ran some tests. And the temperature that came off the IHS was pretty much exactly the same as the cores.

So hitting 61c in the cores means 61c on the IHS.
Hitting 75c on the cores means 75c on the IHS which means 14c over Intel's rated limit.

Unless I am miss understanding something here?

Ps I use core temp. Nivida monitoring software doesn't even work. I can't even use it to check my nvidia video card temps. Nvidia monitor says its runs at a constant 53c idle and under load.


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