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Bad_Boy 02-24-07 01:52 PM

"Blu-ray Tips Scales"
 
Anybody see this?

"NPD sales show Blu-ray has now officially surpassed all HD DVD sales since inception."

Mr. Hunt 02-24-07 02:19 PM

Re: "Blu-ray Tips Scales"
 
You just wait 'til those Chinese HD-DVD players hit the market... YOU JUST WAIT!

betterdan 02-24-07 02:43 PM

Re: "Blu-ray Tips Scales"
 
They are ahead but it is not that big a lead actually. Here is a quote from that article.

Quote:

Buoyed by a rush of titles this year, Blu-ray has racked up a slight lead in unit sales — 100 units to every 98.71 units of HD DVD — since the inception of both formats, according to First Alert data.

Bad_Boy 02-24-07 04:25 PM

Re: "Blu-ray Tips Scales"
 
Sure its a very minor lead, but 6 months ago it was "blu-ray is doomed", 4 weeks ago it was "blu-ray sales ok, but hd-dvd still has sold more", now if this is true I think its a pretty big change from where things were. no?

Despotes 02-24-07 07:30 PM

Re: "Blu-ray Tips Scales"
 
Doesn't make sense to the informed. HD players offer slightly improved pic quality and the players are less expensive.
Sony has the marketing down like BOSE.

MustangSVT 02-24-07 07:54 PM

Re: "Blu-ray Tips Scales"
 
You should all be hoping for HD-DVD to make a comeback. It will be a cold and sad day when Blu-Ray wins the war. :(

walterman 02-24-07 08:28 PM

Re: "Blu-ray Tips Scales"
 
Personally, i just care about the movie bitrate. Both formats use same video codecs. If you want the best picture quality, you'll understand it.

Hex 02-24-07 08:44 PM

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The big movies havent even hit bluray yet.

Mr. Hunt 02-24-07 11:38 PM

Re: "Blu-ray Tips Scales"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hex
The big movies havent even hit bluray yet.

Yup... Casino Royal next month, and in May POTC 1 and 2, and it is rumored that Spider-man 1 and 2 might be coming out in May also.

evilchris 02-25-07 12:48 PM

Re: "Blu-ray Tips Scales"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Despotes
Doesn't make sense to the informed. HD players offer slightly improved pic quality and the players are less expensive.
Sony has the marketing down like BOSE.

d00d!! All you need is two speakers and the acoustimass module! It sounds the same as have 7 speakers!~!!


It is a shame, however, that the misinformed dip**** public is going to casue movies to look inferior the next 10 years until a new format.

OWA 02-25-07 02:14 PM

Re: "Blu-ray Tips Scales"
 
Blu-ray and HD DVD are essentially the same spec-wise so it's kind of shame they couldn't work out their differences.

The quality does seem to vary more on blu-ray b/c they don't all use the same codec/bitrates. But, when comparing similar codecs/bitrates I don't think one magically looks better than the other (i.e. I think blu-ray and HD DVD look pretty much the same).

Surprisingly (to me at least), is how well some of the MPEG-2 blu-ray movies hold up PQ-wise against against HD DVD and blu-ray movies using VC-1 (or AVC). I think Kingdom of Heaven looks great and it's just using MPEG-2. I guess I figured the newer codecs would inherently be superior just b/c they're newer.

walterman 02-25-07 07:49 PM

Re: "Blu-ray Tips Scales"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OWA
Surprisingly (to me at least), is how well some of the MPEG-2 blu-ray movies hold up PQ-wise against against HD DVD and blu-ray movies using VC-1 (or AVC). I think Kingdom of Heaven looks great and it's just using MPEG-2. I guess I figured the newer codecs would inherently be superior just b/c they're newer.

Yes, agree with you here.

From my personal experience, MPEG-2 keeps better the sharpness of the image & looks very good with high bitrate (>20Mbps). The problem is that with lower bitrate, it's too blocky (<16Mbps). H264 is less blocky even with low bitrate (+-10 Mbps), but, it sacrifices all the sharpness of the image.

Think it's about the way the codec filters the frequencies of the image. After all, the details of the image are in the high freq components (in a 2D DFT representation of the image).


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