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///MVinny 04-19-07 11:04 PM

1080i Resolution unused by nvidia-auto-select on 60-inch HDTV, [ Sony KDS-R60XBR1 ]
 
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Display: 60-inch rear projection 1080i, HDTV, Sony KDS-R60XBR1.

Card: GeForce 7900 GS, AGP 8X, DVI to HDMI.

Box: AMD64, Linux Kubuntu Edgy 6.10,

Kernel: 2.6.17-11 generic. Xorg 7.1.1. Nvidia 1.0-9755.

The graphics and platform are very stable. KDE runs a beautiful 32 bpp display with excellent 3D and 2D motion.

The panel's native resolution is 1080i, [ xorg EDID section snip: ]
Code:

(--) NVIDIA(0): --- EDID for SONY TV (DFP-0) ---(--) NVIDIA(0): Detailed Timings:
...
...
(--) NVIDIA(0):  1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
(--) NVIDIA(0):    Pixel Clock      : 74.25 MHz
(--) NVIDIA(0):    HRes, HSyncStart : 1920, 2008
(--) NVIDIA(0):    HSyncEnd, HTotal : 2052, 2200
(--) NVIDIA(0):    VRes, VSyncStart : 540, 542
(--) NVIDIA(0):    VSyncEnd, VTotal : 547, 562
(--) NVIDIA(0):    H/V Polarity    : +/+
(--) NVIDIA(0):    Extra            : Interlaced


The problem: 1080i (or other interlaced resolutions it seems) are unused, nvidia-auto-select will instead use:
Code:

(II) NVIDIA(0): Native backend timings for SONY TV (DFP-0):
(II) NVIDIA(0):  1280 x 720 @ 60 Hz
(II) NVIDIA(0):    Pixel Clock      : 74.25 MHz
(II) NVIDIA(0):    HRes, HSyncStart : 1280, 1390
(II) NVIDIA(0):    HSyncEnd, HTotal : 1430, 1650
(II) NVIDIA(0):    VRes, VSyncStart :  720,  725
(II) NVIDIA(0):    VSyncEnd, VTotal :  730,  750
(II) NVIDIA(0):    H/V Polarity    : +/+
(II) NVIDIA(0):
(II) NVIDIA(0):
(II) NVIDIA(0): --- Modes in ModePool for SONY TV (DFP-0) ---
(II) NVIDIA(0): "nvidia-auto-select" : 1280 x  720 @  60.0 Hz  (from: EDID)
(II) NVIDIA(0): "1280x720"          : 1280 x  720 @  60.0 Hz  (from: EDID)
(II) NVIDIA(0): "1280x720_60"        : 1280 x  720 @  60.0 Hz  (from: EDID)
...
...

1920x1080i worked perfectly on this same platform, display panel, using ATI Radeon 9600.

Bug report attached, Xorg.0.log attached [startx -- -logverbose 5], look forward to troubleshooting further and thank you for your assistance in advance.

Cheers,

Vinny.

[link to Sony KDS-R60XBR1 specs]
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...me=specs&var2=

AaronP 04-20-07 01:35 AM

Re: 1080i Resolution unused by nvidia-auto-select on 60-inch HDTV, [ Sony KDS-R60XBR1
 
I think you need to start with -logverbose 6 to get the detailed mode validation log.

rerushg 04-20-07 08:37 AM

Re: 1080i Resolution unused by nvidia-auto-select on 60-inch HDTV, [ Sony KDS-R60XBR1 ]
 
MVinny:
Very curious to see how this works out. I have very similar set-up except Panasonic PTV and PCI-E card.
Could not get DVI/DVI to work properly. EDID recognition was "DFP" (digital flat panel), same as your log shows. Recognition is fine in WinXP and NV Control Panel gives complete control of display.
In Linux (Ubuntu 6.06) I switched to S-video output with splitter to component input and used "TV" modes in Xorg.conf to get display. Suspected "buggy" EDID and gave up on DVI/DVI.
Hopefully these friendly folks can get you fixed and I'll get "fixed" too.

Good luck
(and thanks in advance NV)

///MVinny 04-20-07 10:42 AM

Re: 1080i Resolution unused by nvidia-auto-select on 60-inch HDTV, [ Sony KDS-R60XBR1
 
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Good morning Aaron, Done...

[ Modes rejected ?? Interesting, want to buy a TV? ] Thanks for the help on this. -6 reveals quite a bit.

Rerushg, I'm hoping I can stick with the DVI-HDMI setup, but we'll see.

This looks to be the problem:
Code:

(II) NVIDIA(0): --- Building ModePool for SONY TV (DFP-0) ---
(II) NVIDIA(0):  Validating Mode "1920x1080":
(II) NVIDIA(0):    1920 x 540 @ 60 Hz
(II) NVIDIA(0):    For use as DFP backend.
(II) NVIDIA(0):    Mode Source: EDID
(II) NVIDIA(0):      Pixel Clock      : 74.25 MHz
(II) NVIDIA(0):      HRes, HSyncStart : 1920, 2008
(II) NVIDIA(0):      HSyncEnd, HTotal : 2052, 2200
(II) NVIDIA(0):      VRes, VSyncStart :  540,  542
(II) NVIDIA(0):      VSyncEnd, VTotal :  547,  562
(II) NVIDIA(0):      H/V Polarity    : +/+
(II) NVIDIA(0):      Extra            : Interlace
(WW) NVIDIA(0):    Mode is rejected: VertRefresh (120.1 Hz) out of range
(WW) NVIDIA(0):    (59.000-61.000 Hz).

120 Hz, yeah I wish. Aaron, any thoughts? Thank you in advance. I also see my panel reports:
Code:

(--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on Unknown at PCI:1:0:0:
(--) NVIDIA(0):    SONY TV (DFP-0)
 ...
 ...
(--) NVIDIA(0): SONY TV (DFP-0): DFP modes are not limited to 60 Hz refresh


miltiad 04-20-07 08:36 PM

Re: 1080i Resolution unused by nvidia-auto-select on 60-inch HDTV, [ Sony KDS-R60XBR1
 
Let me know the result of your tests my HDMI cable is ordered.

xbobmx 04-20-07 08:58 PM

Re: 1080i Resolution unused by nvidia-auto-select on 60-inch HDTV, [ Sony KDS-R60XBR1
 
Try adding:
Code:

Option "ModeValidation" "NoVertRefreshCheck"
to your xorg.conf file.

pe1chl 04-21-07 03:23 AM

Re: 1080i Resolution unused by nvidia-auto-select on 60-inch HDTV, [ Sony KDS-R60XBR1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ///MVinny
120 Hz, yeah I wish.

This has been discussed before. You will probably find several other threads by sarching for this.

///MVinny 04-21-07 01:53 PM

Re: 1080i Resolution unused by nvidia-auto-select on 60-inch HDTV, [ Sony KDS-R60XBR1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xbobmx
Try adding:
Code:

Option "ModeValidation" "NoVertRefreshCheck"
to your xorg.conf file.

xbobmx: Although I need some further tweaking, this yielded some success! I did try this setting before however, not without some other options which may have done more harm than good.

So far so good though:
Code:

(II) NVIDIA(0): --- Building ModePool for SONY TV (DFP-0) ---
(II) NVIDIA(0):  Validating Mode "1920x1080":
(II) NVIDIA(0):    1920 x 540 @ 60 Hz
(II) NVIDIA(0):    For use as DFP backend.
(II) NVIDIA(0):    Mode Source: EDID
(II) NVIDIA(0):      Pixel Clock      : 74.25 MHz
(II) NVIDIA(0):      HRes, HSyncStart : 1920, 2008
(II) NVIDIA(0):      HSyncEnd, HTotal : 2052, 2200
(II) NVIDIA(0):      VRes, VSyncStart :  540,  542
(II) NVIDIA(0):      VSyncEnd, VTotal :  547,  562
(II) NVIDIA(0):      H/V Polarity    : +/+
(II) NVIDIA(0):      Extra            : Interlace
(II) NVIDIA(0):    Mode is valid.

I need to do a little poking around here, it looks like the 1920 x 540 resolution is being used instead of 1920x1080, (picture is stretched vertically). Albeit a success in the sense I'm making some progress!

///MVinny 04-21-07 07:00 PM

Re: 1080i Resolution unused by nvidia-auto-select on 60-inch HDTV, [ Sony KDS-R60XBR1
 
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Next question: The best resolution displaying is 1920 x 540, rather than 1920 x 1080. I looked around the other posts and tried various Screen options to no avail, permit me to start here:

Code:

(II) NVIDIA(0): --- Building ModePool for SONY TV (DFP-0) ---
(II) NVIDIA(0):  Validating Mode "1920x1080":
(II) NVIDIA(0):    1920 x 540 @ 60 Hz
(II) NVIDIA(0):    Mode Source: EDID
 . . .
 . . .
(II) NVIDIA(0):    Mode is valid.

Okay, but:
Code:

(II) NVIDIA(0): --- Modes in ModePool for SONY TV (DFP-0) ---
(II) NVIDIA(0): "nvidia-auto-select" : 1920 x 1080 @ 120.1 Hz Interlace  (from: EDID)
(II) NVIDIA(0): "1920x1080"          : 1920 x 1080 @ 120.1 Hz Interlace  (from: EDID)
(II) NVIDIA(0): "1920x1080_120i"    : 1920 x 1080 @ 120.1 Hz Interlace  (from: EDID)
(II) NVIDIA(0): "1920x1080_120i_0"  : 1920 x 1080 @ 120.0 Hz Interlace  (from: EDID)

Xorg:
Code:

Section "Screen"
 . . .
 . . .
    Option      "Modevalidation" "NoVertRefreshCheck"
 . . .
 . . .
        Modes "1920x1080"

I also used 1920x1080_120i , and 1920x1080_120i_0 as well on the modes line, same result and display sticks to 1920x540. Thank you all for any help in advance.

///MVinny 04-24-07 05:37 PM

Re: 1080i Resolution unused by nvidia-auto-select on 60-inch HDTV, [ Sony KDS-R60XBR1
 
Bump :drooling:

{ I put the ATI radeon 9600 back in, 1920 x 1080 works great, still ! }

AaronP 04-24-07 10:25 PM

Re: 1080i Resolution unused by nvidia-auto-select on 60-inch HDTV, [ Sony KDS-R60XBR1
 
What exactly is reporting 1920x540? Your log file indicates that your desktop is 1920x1080.
Code:

(II) NVIDIA(0): MetaMode "1920x1080":
(II) NVIDIA(0):    Bounding Box: [0, 0, 1920, 1080]
(II) NVIDIA(0):    SONY TV (DFP-0): "1920x1080"
(II) NVIDIA(0):        Size          : 1920 x 1080
(II) NVIDIA(0):        Offset        : +0 +0
(II) NVIDIA(0):        Panning Domain: @ 1920 x 1080
(II) NVIDIA(0):        Position      : [0, 0, 1920, 1080]
(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1920 x 1080


rerushg 04-25-07 07:58 AM

Re: 1080i Resolution unused by nvidia-auto-select on 60-inch HDTV, [ Sony KDS-R60XBR1
 
Aaron:
Not an expert here so hope I'm not "stating the obvious" to you.

Note that in MVinny's original bug report the 1920x1080 mode was rejected because vertrefresh was out of range from EDID data.
He then added the option to ignore vertrefresh check so mode was accepted. But he got a vertically stretched 1920x540 display. That suggests to me that the same 1920x540 data was "interlaced with itself", resulting in apparent vert stretch.

Seems to be a "factor of 2" misunderstanding going on. (Same with my Panasonic.)
I.e.: I believe that in interlaced mode a frequency of 60 Hz is "per pass" @ 1920x540. At the needed 2 passes per "total picture" the "net frequency per picture" is 30 Hz.
Perhaps NV's 120 Hz mode frequency is a bug? Perhaps EDID should report 120 hz?
Seems the two are out of sync.


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