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einstein_314 08-07-07 06:50 PM

Linux n00b needs teh helpzors!!!
Ok guys! So I recently got this idea in my head that I want to play around with Linux....I have an old computer (P4) that I want to turn into a file server (an ftp server?). Maybe even play around with it being a webserver (like for a webpage or something).

The problem is I've never touched linux. And there are so many varieties of it out there....I don't know where to start. If you could point me in the right direction I would be grateful!

I know several of you are very experienced in this area and would like some pointers. And please keep it simple if possible, I don't want to be overwhelmed. Haha.

Thanks guys!!

grey_1 08-07-07 07:17 PM

Re: Linux n00b needs teh helpzors!!!

Best place to start learning bro. Dl and burn the iso. I recommend the alternate install iso.

Boot from it, let it do the partitioning, and follow the prompts. Very easy to get up and running.

Alternatively, dl knoppix live cd

Boot from it and play around with out it touching your hdd.

Have fun man!

einstein_314 08-07-07 07:51 PM

Re: Linux n00b needs teh helpzors!!!
Sweet thanks Grey!!! So what exactly is the difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu? And why is Kubuntu better?

EDIT: answered my own question. Kubutu = Ubuntu + KDE

grey_1 08-07-07 08:19 PM

Re: Linux n00b needs teh helpzors!!!

Originally Posted by einstein_314
Sweet thanks Grey!!! So what exactly is the difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu? And why is Kubuntu better?

EDIT: answered my own question. Kubutu = Ubuntu + KDE

Yep. Personally I prefer Gnome. It just feels more polished and stable for me. Plus gdm (gnome desktopmanager) just seems to look smoother to me than kdm.

Only reason at all I mentioned kubuntu is KDE would be much more intuitive for a first timer than Gnome. Honestly though I think you would fly through either.

After installing to hdd, open a terminal and do

"sudo apt-get update"


"sudo apt-get install synaptic" all minus quotes of course.

Synaptic is a graphical front end for apt, you will be able to scroll through everything available, see what dependencies are involved, along with a brief description of most packages.

Install Gnome, then at login screen you can choose KDE or Gnome, see which you like best. :)

evilghost 08-07-07 09:37 PM

Re: Linux n00b needs teh helpzors!!!
I'd go with just Ubuntu. You can do Windows visible shares via the use of Samba. Ubuntu is very well documented, and like grey_1, I prefer Gnome over KDE. If you're going to learn something new I'd go with Gnome via the use of vanilla Ubuntu. If you're considering setting up a server use Dapper Drake LTS instead of Feisty Fawn as Dapper is supported much longer and is considered Ubuntu's stable "Long Term Support (LTS)" release.

einstein_314 09-06-07 05:00 PM

Re: Linux n00b needs teh helpzors!!!
Ok guys.....so I finally got around to installing ubuntu 7.04 server. But I have a question. I've read bits here and there about having a good partitioning scheme....but I can't for the life of me find anywhere that actually suggests one....I tried the "guided partitioning" feature and it makes 2 partitions, a swap and a '/' .... so any recommendations?

grey_1 09-06-07 05:19 PM

Re: Linux n00b needs teh helpzors!!!
I personally like

/root = 20%
/home =80% - 1-2 gigs for a swap.

All settings and dl's etc can be saved in home should you want to try another "same based" OS, ie 'debian based'.

I understand separate /root, /home, /temp. and /var will provide greater security.

Maybe someone more proficient can elaborate on that.

Hope this helps some.

six_storm 09-06-07 06:38 PM

Re: Linux n00b needs teh helpzors!!!

Linux is fun and very rewarding once you start dabbling with it . . . and that's basically all it is - dabbling. Play around with the customizations and get your desktop the way you want it. That way, you know how to do it again if you have to reformat lol. I can guarantee that you'll have to reformat at one point . . .

einstein_314 09-09-07 09:04 PM

Re: Linux n00b needs teh helpzors!!!
Ok guys!! I'm learning this linux stuff pretty well. So far so good. Played with KDE the other day. Then installed the GNOME desktop. Liking GNOME better so far.

Couple of questions though. I'm setting this box up to run as a file server (here at home) and as an ftp server. First off, what file system should I use on the drive i'm storing all my data on? Just ext3? Or is there a better one to use? Apparently different file systems are better for different things...or so I've read...

secondly...the transfer speed between the linux box and my vista desktop is rather slow....I'm averaging 20MB/s (I have gigabit ethernet here) whereas between my 2 vista pc's I average 50-60MB/s.


ViN86 09-09-07 10:29 PM

Re: Linux n00b needs teh helpzors!!!
if i were to run a server, id run Slackware 12.0 and then write a little script (or modify the current one) and run vsftpd

it's fast, stable, and like it's name says, very simple :)

however, there are a lot of fans here of Ubuntu and some other distros, so if you want to use this as a primary help site, then id probably go with Ubuntu. and last but not least, the BEST way to get proficient in linux is to USE IRC!

there are soooooo many good ppl out on IRC that can help you with any distro. it's been by far my best resource. :D

six_storm 09-09-07 10:41 PM

Re: Linux n00b needs teh helpzors!!!
Check and see if there are better drivers out there for your NIC. Ubuntu (from what I've heard) doesn't always give you the best drivers available.

steletch 09-17-07 10:39 AM

Re: Linux n00b needs teh helpzors!!!
For your kind of purpose, i'd suggest you to try MandrivaLinux, it's quite easy for the newcomers, (setup is quite complete after the first installation) and you have the mandriva documentation avaialble online (in the browser i mean, you just browse the local files) and/or via pdf files (also available on the free DVD).

Setting up the file sharing with windows (or other systems) can be done via the "Mandriva Control Center" (MCC) which has plenty other utilities.

Ubuntu provides the tools gnome provides, Mandriva has also them but the MCC is still a lot more advanced for usage than the tools of gnome (and kde). in Mandriva, you won't have to choose between KDE and gnome since both are provided.

Last, there are 'wizards' to set up easily many stuff (like file sharing, setting up a webserver, ...). To have them, just do : urpmi drakwizard, and that'll be all !


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