Bk, Im not the fanboy here... That should be obvious...
Anyonelike you who *Claims* to not see a Difference in the AA+AF of the 9700pro is simply not stating the truth for your own personal motivations. A.KA. = Fanboy.
You guys only scratched the tip of the issues with that conclusion...
Inno3D Tornado GeForce FX 5800 is not the best performing card you can find out there in the market especially with Radeon 9800 Pro cards around. Even Radeon 9700 Pro cards can offer better gaming performance at similar price point at the current moment. However, there are already some evidences that next generation games like Doom III will be able to perform better on NV30 architecture and also the games written on Cg programming will be able to utilize the engine to the fullest. Definitely, there are a number of consumers out there who prefer to stick with NVIDIA based cards for better compatibilities with games. Inno3D Tornado GeForce FX 5800 card can be overclocked to a GeForce FX 5800 Ultra version at 500/1000Mhz core/mem easily but any higher is limited by the current cooler design. Definitely, the performance of the card was improved dramatically from the higher core/mem clock and will be able to outperform the Radeon 9700 Pro this time.
Again the ridiculous mention of Doom-III. which we all know only runs a few % faster on the Nv30 (in the current un-released version) becuase JC has a lot of special code paths that REDUCE QUALITY. Yes these A-Holes never seem to remebmer to mention that. The fact of the matter is that Future games are going to run like **** on the Nv30 becuase of its hardware issues. Unless of course like in the case of Doom-III and Stalker the Developer babysits the Nv30 and gives it special Ed like handouts.
Of course there are cases where the FXUltra is faster. Especially where its Core speed advantage of 175mhz comes into play.