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Old 06-22-03, 05:18 PM   #70
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Originally posted by StealthHawk
That's a fair assumption. I for one don't really keep track of the exact numbers given in a review, unless things look ridiculously fishy.

Well, I would say that the r8500 most likely has some detections for 3dmark2001 GT4. I also wouldn't be all that surprised if some general case optimizations played a part in the extra performance. The early r8500 drivers weren't that hot, so it is believable.

To say that there is no direct optimizations would be foolish.

This is what bothers me a bit here,

Lets assume for example these original numbers for Game Test 4 are correct without 3dmark optimisations.

With the 3dmark optimisations we see about 25 FPS increase in performance, Ok thats fine,

But we see the same with the ATI card, Are we to assume the original 25 FPS and the 47 FPS we're seeing now are more likely the real numbers for this cards 1.0 shader power?

Most likely yes, Given the current hardware evolution and the r300 was never meant to show off the power of DirectX 8.0 specifications.

Later after the Radeon 9700 Pro was released. nvidia released its Det 4.0X which provided a massive boost to that game to narrow the performance gap between the two cards,

You got to admit it's somewhat compelling. Which company is showing the real shader performance, Is the r300 really not that much better than a Geforce 4 at integer DX 8 shader routines? Who knows at this point. It's impossible to tell
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