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Old 09-13-03, 10:09 PM   #90
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Default Re: Re: Bah

Originally posted by StealthHawk
Why would you want to do something as silly as that?

*disclaimer* the following is me being 100% serious
Ok, so you know NVIDIA is cheating. I know NVIDIA is cheating. Probably 80-95% of the people on these forums know in their hearts that NVIDIA is cheating, although not everyone will admit it's wrong. But, so what if NVIDIA is cheating? Those of us who have kept in the loop have known NVIDIA has been cheating for 6 months. Since last year when the r9700 launched I don't think NVIDIA has lost a single percentage point of discrete desktop market share(last quarter they lost some total market share, which is the first drop since r9700 was launched last Fall). They have the largest DX9 market courtesy of the gfFX5200. Major websites like [H], Toms, and Anand have hardly covered NVIDIA's antics(mostly because they refused to look at synthetic "useless" benchamrks). The masses don't know about NVIDIA's cheating. The masses probably don't even care about it. From a company standpoint, NVIDIA is doing very well considering the products they have out and the things they've done. They just keep dishing the PR out and everyone buys it. NVIDIA from a company standpoint has done enviously well. Are they morally bankrupt? Most likely. But they continue to play the game well and succeed. Even today, you can find certain people out there who believe NVIDIA is the second coming(no need to mention names, just read their forum posts) even when faced with all the facts of the past. How do you think the masses will react to NVIDIA when they don't have the facts? Despite all its underhanded dealings and problematic hardware/software, NVIDIA is the darling of the masses and of the press. NV40 will probably fix all these problems and will be out be out in a few months. And everyone will forget the horrible NV3x(except people who own them). From the hardcore enthusiast point of view, it's all doom and gloom. Economically, it's bright!

I am not being sarcastic in the above in any way. I am being dead serious. I would not worry about my investment if I had money in NVDA.

P.S. this is assuming the downward spiral stops and NV40 is clean.
I agree with your assessment, up until this point we've come to with Half-life2 and it's benchmark preliminary results.

If when the benchmark comes out and the game all those people who bought into the nVidia hype are going to discover it's just hype and will quickly learn what the rest of us have known for a while, and they're going to be mad and they're going to turn to nVidia for answers/explanations.

What happens after that is what I like to call, "the interesting bits".

The big sites didn't ignore the benchmark preliminary findings, and it's caused a bit of a stir...but only in the community I'll grant you.

When Half-life2 the game comes out it's going to be a different story entirely, guaranteed. It'll simply be too big to miss, I really think this sequel to Half-life is going to be just as revolutionary and evolutionary in it's own way as the first one was...and the only victim and loser for it's success will be nVidia.

It won't continue forever Stealth, we're right now in the last few weeks/months of the endgame bit and it's going to get a whole lot more interesting as time goes by. You and I both know that nVidia ain't going to be able to find a magic bullet to fix this, I just can't wait to see how nVidia and the big sites who've been backing them deal with/react when the reality of this whole thing hits the general public.

Stick around and try and be patient Stealth, it's not a situation that can stay stagnant much longer.
[SIZE=1][I]"It was very important to us that NVIDIA did not know exactly where to aim. As a result they seem to have over-engineered in some aspects creating a power-hungry monster which is going to be very expensive for them to manufacture. We have a beautifully balanced piece of hardware that beats them on pure performance, cost, scalability, future mobile relevance, etc. That's all because they didn't know what to aim at."
-R.Huddy[/I] [/SIZE]
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