Originally Posted by Ninja Prime
With what? What kind of magic secret special sauce does NV have that will make it all better? Right now, we know pretty much what Fermi will be, because NV pretty much paper launched it a while ago. Its slightly more than a double GTX280, by about 15% on shaders. Everything else is about doubled. That makes it maybe slightly more than double a GTX280 in performance, with ATI having the 5870, which is a slightly more than double 4870. Its the same situation... so tell me Rollo, what happened last round?
Only this time, ATI is way ahead on the launch, and has 30+% more performance in reserve for a 5890 card if they need it to beat whatever NV launches next year. Not to mention, the moment NV launches their card, ATI can just bring out the 5870x2 and beat it soundly. The situation for NV is bad now, when last year they lost when the situation for them was great, and they were poised to crush ATI.
Well? You think fanboyism will change reality?
Can't look at it that way NP- NVIDIA actually re-designed their shaders. (unlike ATi, who really did just double up on the 4870)
ATi has 30% more performance they held back? I guess people who bought 5870s got ripped off and people who didn't should wait. Sounds like another 1800>1900 situation in the making.
If you're going to talk about the 5870X2, shouldn't you mention the 5870 is getting beat down pretty handily by the GTX295 in many benchmarks currently?
That's another interesting thing about your post- you think ATi is holding back the 5870X2 till Fermi launches?! Man, from the sound of things even ATi fans should leave their wallet in their pocket. You make it sound like the 5970 was rushed out the door to mop up some sales from the impatient, while ATi holds the 30% faster GPU and the X2 until they need them. How unethical, and unfair to their fans.