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Old 01-24-10, 09:40 PM   #87
Slytat
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Default Re: 5870/5970 vs. GF100 (Fermi)

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Originally Posted by shadow001 View Post
And the main point that ATI intentionally keeps the relative size/power and production cost of their last few generations of GPU's,limited on purpose to allow the use of the same GPU on several different models of cards has nothing to do with it right?,which includes cards starting as low as 250$ using Cypress GPU's(HD5830).


Absolutely nothing stops ATI from building GPU's just as large and using just as many transistors as Nvidia does for their high end parts,and sticking to a single GPU design for their highest end models,just like Nvidia does,but it seems that a least in the last 2 generations,they've found a better way to serve several price points and address several markets with the same GPU.


And the latest example is the most obvious one....Like it or hate it,ATI's HD5800/5900 cards were released on time and kicking ass and taking the speed crown,while Nvidia does nothing but talk how great Fermi will be,and it's horribly late and using a lot of power,so it's not hard to see which strategy is working better so far.


So with that in mind,comparing a single Cypress,which was still built to be economical to produce and use reasonable amounts of power and easily allow the possibility of a dual GPU card,against a strategy from it's direct competitor which tried to stuff as many transistors as possible into a single GPU die,uses a lot more power and isn't cheap to make,isn't really a fair comparison either.


Ask yourself this....When will you see Fermi being used in a 250$ video card,just like ATI can use Cypress in a card selling for the same price,and still make money on it?....That's right,probably not happening anytime soon.

I'll stick to testing on a GPU vs GPU basis and you do whatever makes you happy. As usual, you feel this misplaced need to defend ATI from what you perceive to be an attack.

You keep treating this like a competition but I'll remind you again that I own a 5970 (and I had 2 5870s before that). I would be far more amenable to ATI if they had an app like nHancer and their drivers were a little better.

I could go on and on but you'll keep thinking this is an argument that you have to "win" while I'll keep on enjoying my hardware regardless of who makes it

Happy trails.
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