Originally Posted by grey_1
Crap - all this trash talking is irritating as hell.
I'd love to go to this gig and grab a new Fermi, but so far all I know is that it might beat out a 5870 and that it might cost upwards of $300 more than a 5870.
All of this could be alleviated by Nvidia simply releasing some reliable benchmarks and some price points. Their hesitance alone is almost enough to make me go red by default.
NVIDIA doesn't paper launch, they don't release benchmarks ahead of schedule. At the Deep Dive at CES they told us they have released more details about Fermi than any launch prior to this.
ATi does indeed paper launch and release info prior to availability.
ATi had so many consecutive unprofitable quarters they ended up selling their business to AMD and losing total control of it. AMD and ATi together now are worth a little more than half of what NVIDIA is worth. NVIDIA made more money than ATi last quarter, and gained marketshare on ATi without even having competing chips.
When I see people say "NVIDIA should do business like ATi!" I consider the above, and hope they don't.