Originally Posted by Rollo
I have no quarrel with you either grey_1, and I can appreciate your frustration waiting fo this launch. (and everyone else's)
A lot of people are comparing this launch to the FX5800 and the HD2900 because it's six months behind the competing launch due to respins, and that it's suspected the cards will run hotter and at higher voltage.
Those things all MAY be true (don't know on heat and voltage) but that is where the similarity ends.
The FX/HD were both much weaker in AA performance than their competitor. I've watched the GTX480 run the FarCry2 demo twice as fast as a GTX285 with AA on. I've seen a PR slide showing how the 4X to 8X MSAA penalty has been cut by a huge percentage. NVIDIA is also launching a new mode with more samples that performs VERY well. So that is different.
The FX/HD launched at performance significantly lower that their competitors, from what I've been told and what I've seen, I don't believe this to be the case with the GTX480. I think it will launch as the market leader. That's a BIG difference.
The FX/HD lacked significant features their competitors had, like usable DX9 performance for the FX and AF angle invariant AF for the HD. The GTX480 has everything the HD 5870 has, and much more in terms of checkbox features.
NVIDIA is launching a better part than the HD5870 on 3/26, they're just launching it half a year plus after the part it competes with. If 3/26 is too long to wait for a better part, you should buy a 5870 now. It's not like they're "bad" cards, they just won't be the "best" cards in a month.
Last- my guess is that NVIDIA withholds clocks and performance to keep ATi in the dark and make them either guess with their refresh, or wait and lose some sales. You would too if you controlled NVIDIA- your responsibility would be to the stockholders.
Good info Rollo - thank you.
I am simply not as educated as many of you gents WRT the tech, but I do believe NV has had other reasons than all the negative press - I would personally love to see a repeat of the 'WoW' factor we saw with the 8800GTX - would absolutely love it.
Given my lack of knowledge though...it's always best to give you guys time to get good info out there for guys like me to chew on.
That said...when I mentioned Pax to the wife last night, she asked if I would like to go..and snag a card if available.
Again, that's some of the best info I've seen to date - Thanks!