Well I guess they should believe me since you work for the NV FUD machine and can't post without lying or trying to hide the facts. Interesting how you linked the cheaper, slower GTX 470, which doesn't beat a 6870 to compare cost and then after that linked the top-end highest overclocked top end FTW edition which is much more expensive as if they were the same card. Fail. Even Anandtech took flak for that match-up, which was done at NVs request. Sorry Rollo, even the single one you could cook up was a lie.