Originally Posted by Bah!
And yet you bought a 580? That makes zero sense, considering the 580 is only marginally better than the 480, and the 470 is actually a better value than the 480 was.
Also, enough about the heat. Where were all these people whining about heat when the 8000 series came out? Those cards are still universally praised and they ran MUCH hotter at idle and about the same at load.
I think the 8800 GTX didn't run nearly as hot at load. It did run hotter at idle, but then again, it didn't have as beefy of a cooler as the GTX 480 (or the 470 too). Also, the 8800 GTX was done right from the beginning. The only time it got better (other than the 8800 Ultra) was with the introduction of G92. The 580 is what the GTX 480 was supposed to be: a 512 CUDA core card that uses slightly less power and achieves 20% extra performance while running cooler.
Basically, while the GTX 580 is essentially a tweaked version of the GTX 480, it is a vastly superior card that is pretty much just as efficient as the 5870. However, the GTX 580 is much faster, and no one will dispute that. If I had my choice between a 5870 and a GTX 580 right now, I would choose the GTX 580 hands down. If I had a choice between the 5870 and the GTX 480, the choice would not be as easy.
I also agree that the FX series was Nvidia's worst card series in their history. Fermi was just a fluke that has been fixed.