Thx for the info guys.
I have a 120 fan blowing on the card anyway so it really doesnt matter that the fan only works in 3d mode
It not as loud as what people would think--i guess it according to how solid and insulated your case is--but i always use headphones while playing games.
I almost purchased the 5950 ,but i really dont see enough speed increase to spend the money---waiting on the pci-x now.
I will admit that going with the amd 64 processer sped things up very well.