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Old 06-05-04, 08:29 PM   #59
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Default Re: Fx5800U?!?! Plz help

Originally Posted by Rollo
It's on!

I agree memory bandwidth is good, and that the 5900 series has better shader performance, but:
1. I don't think you'll see a huge difference in at playable settings in either card (i.e. you have to hit the limit of your bandwidth for it to be an issue)
2. Your argument is based on the supposition the part you buy will OC it's memory 100MHz, which is a pretty huge OC for that slow RAM they put in cards made to spec at 350Mhz. (i.e. to go from 700MHz effective to 900MHz effective, you have to bump RAM speed from 350>450MHz)
3. Not everyone wants to/can OC
4. 5800Us OC too, both memory and core (look at what Waltar ran his at-
560/1200(!) )

Anyway, my original post was mainly to point out the many persisting misconceptions about the much misunderstood and maligned 5800U, which I've been loving using for months now.

I agree the 5800 Is a great product, and I wasnt really basing my conclusion on On the extra 100 Mhz, Would you believe raising the memory from 700 to 900 mhz only gives me about a 3-4 FPS increase in most benchmarks?

But it does increase the texturing Fill Rate, I agree there isnt a major difference, But I usually fill the pros out weigh the cons of a 5800/verses 5900.

While not everyone wants to/can OC, You have to admit, Most people whod buy an FX 5800 Ultra would be a pure enthusiast,

I do agree that there is a misconception about the 5800, But I also dont believe the 5800 Is all that "superior" to a 5900. In most cases, I think the 5800/5900 line are fairly equal, The architectual differences for DX 9.0 definately weigh in the 5900s favor, But DX 8.0/Fixed Function. The 5800 does seem to have a slight advantage

anyway, Good discussion, its definately worth considering all aspects.
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