To answer the topic starters post. The 9800 pro is a good card. So are the 5900/5950. 9800 beats 5900/5950 in D3D, but fx series wins in opengl However these cards are still priced out rather high after the new gens came out and are still priced to high. If you can wait, get a 6600GT AGP. OR, wait for the 6700 series. There is also the possibilty of getting a 6200 and soft modding it to a 6600. There was an article on the front page.