Wow ADM!!! THANKS!! I tried the Omega drivers and boy was I happy! The only compelling reason I had to try and upgrade to the later drivers was the "invisible water" problem I was having with hl2 in dx9 mode. Omega drivers fixed this. Plus they are on 61.77 which means I don't have to deal with the 3d "wierdness" problem on 66.93 and 67.02.