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Old 03-13-03, 11:49 PM   #6
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Originally posted by Yelapaboy
Why would that make me a hypocrite?

I think in fact that is my point.

I currently own a 9700Pro and a 9700Pro AIW, R3D is a wonderful place for support with great help and fairly regular posts from ATI's own development people, I haven't seen any other site for any other companies graphics cards with such excellent and thorough support forums. It is very much a fan site; I wonder how it made it through all the years when ATI cards weren't exactly on top.

Before I bought an ATI 7500 for the first iteration of my HT box I never went there. Why would I? Their news sucks unless you are only interested in ATI cards; the forum regulars aren't exactly unbiased in their opinions of other graphics cards.

R3D holds a unique position in really being the only place to go if you own an ATI card simply because the quality of the support is so good and they get the best ATI news bits. It is a quirk of fate that R3D was the only ATI site left standing when the 9700Pro burst on the scene and ATI suddenly became the favorite enthusiasts card.

I don't think anyone would expect an unbiased review out of Rage 3D, perhaps that is why it was not given a 5600 review card by ATI, even with honest numbers it would not be a fair review, how could it be?

Are you saying that I should expect unbiased reviews from Nvnews even though it seems in the last few they have taken on a noticeably biased slant?

Being a fan-site is fine but there are sure a lot of Nvidia fan-sites hurting these days and IMO Nvnews has the ability and talent in its staff to be a more than decent Hardware site. I thought that was the direction it was heading.

I guess it's all in what Nvnews wants to be, it looks like in the recent weeks they may have decided on being strictly a fan-site.
nice post... IMO...

and yes... rage3d has good support... some major trolls yes... some not so bright people yes.. and also a lot of crud starters saying their gf4mx is better than the 9700pro or whatever because they tried it and it sucked the drivers sucked... blah blah blah...

cut out people who make posts like that and BLAM you have a much calmer forum

but it is a true fansite lol... no doubt...

my take here is that this place is nvNEWS hence news should be posted... and if you are going to post obscure news that paints a product in bright colors (and yes I do remmeber the first 'OFFICIAL' gf FX benchmark figures posted on the front page here.... showing figures of around 20k points in 3dmark2001se ) you might as well consider posting news articles posting rather detailed info on IQ comparisons in a manner I have personally yet to see...
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