I only had a chance to read B3Ds (might as well start with the best). I am happy to see that they have fixed all AF issues (Supports Tri as well as no more 45 degree angle), have a decent MSAA that uses rotated grid or a varient of it and for them they did not seem to have any drive issues. B3D based their reveiw against an 8500 and its double the scores most of the time. The R9700 is a nice pice of work from ATI. Congrads to them for getting their act together... What did you all think?