Issues with resolutions and refreshrates

elgarfi · 03-21-07, 11:58 AM

Hi, im new to this forum and searched the net and this board for about a week now to fix my problems.
Actually, nothing helped until now, so i hope my problem can be fixed here.

My Debian Etch runs fine, runs X, KDE and Beryl without a real problem.
On my 18" LCD everything works, X starts with 1280x1024@75Hz.
On my 17" and 19" CRTs this simply isn't the case, it starts in 1024x768@60Hz (although KRandRTray and the ControlCenter list it as 50Hz ?), i tried many little things with the xorg.conf, but nothing helped, the "nvidia"-driver ALWAYS runs my CRTs with 1024x768@60Hz.
The "nv"-driver works well. It runs my 17" with 1024x768@100Hz.

I generated a bug-report-file for you.
And this is my xorg.conf

Code:

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier	"Default Layout"
	Screen		"Default Screen" 0 0
	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Files"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
	FontPath	"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load	"i2c"
	Load	"bitmap"
	Load	"ddc"
	Load	"extmod"
	Load	"freetype"
	Load	"glx"
	Load	"int10"
	Load	"vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
	Driver		"kbd"
	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
	Option		"XkbRules" "xorg"
	Option		"XkbModel" "pc105"
	Option		"XkbLayout" "de"
	Option		"XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
	Driver		"mouse"
	Option		"CorePointer"
	Option		"Device" "/dev/input/mice"
	Option		"Protocol" "ImPS/2"
	Option		"Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"Standardbildschirm"
	HorizSync	28.0 - 51.0
	VertRefresh	43.0 - 100.0
#	HorizSync	30-95
#	VertRefresh	50-160
	Option		"DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier	"nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
	Driver		"nvidia"
	Option		"UseFBDev"		"true"
	Option "UseEDID" "0"
	Option "UseEdidFreqs" "0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier     "Default Screen"
	Device         "nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
	Monitor        "Standardbildschirm"
	DefaultDepth    24
	Option         "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"
	Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "On"
	Option         "TripleBuffer"
	SubSection     "Display"
		Depth	24
		Modes	"1024x768_65" "1024x768_70" "1024x768_72" "1024x768_75" "1024x768_80" "1024x768_85" "1024x768" "800x600"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
	Option	"Composite" "Enabled"
EndSection

netllama · 03-21-07, 12:26 PM

I see a few problems in your bug report:
0) You're not requesting any 100Mhz refresh rate based modes, so I wouldn't expect you to get them in X
1) You've disabled EDID detection, and its not clear why, however that is going to force the driver to rely entirely on built-in safe defaults and the content of your xorg.conf.
2) Due to the lack of EDID information, the driver is going on the values you provided in xorg.conf which are insufficient to run 1024x768@100:
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Mode is rejected: HorizSync (68.7 kHz) out of range
(WW) NVIDIA(0): (28.000-51.000 kHz).

If you want to run with a 100Mhz mode, you should create a modeline, and stop disabling the EDID.

Thanks,
Lonni

elgarfi · 03-21-07, 12:38 PM

This is the current xorg.conf, even the 1024x768_75 mode isn't running, (which in fact runs on my 18" LCD).
But the XServer always replies in the same way. He reponds to all refreshrates above 60Hz with the same "invalid" message.

So let us assume that i want to run my X with 1024x768@75Hz.
And to the EDID-thing... the Xorg.0.log tells me that the EDID can't be read correctly.

greetz
garfield

netllama · 03-21-07, 12:41 PM

Your 1024x768@75Hz mode is failing to validate for the reason I stated earlier.

I need to see a bug report where the EDID isn't being read correctly.

elgarfi · 03-21-07, 12:56 PM

EDIT:

Code:

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier	"Default Layout"
	Screen		"Default Screen" 0 0
	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Files"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
	FontPath	"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
	FontPath	"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
	FontPath	"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load	"i2c"
	Load	"bitmap"
	Load	"ddc"
	Load	"extmod"
	Load	"freetype"
	Load	"glx"
	Load	"int10"
	Load	"vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
	Driver		"kbd"
	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
	Option		"XkbRules" "xorg"
	Option		"XkbModel" "pc105"
	Option		"XkbLayout" "de"
	Option		"XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
	Driver		"mouse"
	Option		"CorePointer"
	Option		"Device" "/dev/input/mice"
	Option		"Protocol" "ImPS/2"
	Option		"Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier	"Standardbildschirm"
	HorizSync	28.0 - 51.0
	VertRefresh	43.0 - 100.0
#	HorizSync	30-95
#	VertRefresh	50-160
	Option		"DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier	"nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
	Driver		"nvidia"
#	Option		"UseFBDev"		"true"
#	Option "UseEDID" "0"
#	Option "UseEdidFreqs" "0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier     "Default Screen"
	Device         "nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]"
	Monitor        "Standardbildschirm"
	DefaultDepth    24
	Option         "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps"
	Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "On"
	Option         "TripleBuffer"
	SubSection     "Display"
		Depth	24
		Modes	"1024x768_65" "1024x768_70" "1024x768_72" "1024x768_75" "1024x768_80" "1024x768_85" "1024x768" "800x600"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
	Option	"Composite" "Enabled"
EndSection

If you need a bug report with EDID enabled, I'll get you one

hope this helps.
greetings

netllama · 03-21-07, 01:11 PM

(II) NVIDIA(0): Validating Mode "1024x768":
(II) NVIDIA(0): 1024 x 768 @ 75 Hz
(II) NVIDIA(0): Mode Source: X Server
(II) NVIDIA(0): Pixel Clock : 78.80 MHz
(II) NVIDIA(0): HRes, HSyncStart : 1024, 1040
(II) NVIDIA(0): HSyncEnd, HTotal : 1136, 1312
(II) NVIDIA(0): VRes, VSyncStart : 768, 769
(II) NVIDIA(0): VSyncEnd, VTotal : 772, 800
(II) NVIDIA(0): H/V Polarity : +/+
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Mode is rejected: HorizSync (60.1 kHz) out of range
(WW) NVIDIA(0): (28.000-51.000 kHz).

You still need to fix the ranges you specified in xorg.conf.

elgarfi · 03-22-07, 05:31 AM

Oh, thank you very much.
I've been struggling with this problem for one week, and the fix was that simple

Thank you again, for your excellent work.
greetings
garfield

03-21-07, 12:26 PM	#2
netllama NVIDIA Corporation Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8,763	Re: Issues with resolutions and refreshrates I see a few problems in your bug report: 0) You're not requesting any 100Mhz refresh rate based modes, so I wouldn't expect you to get them in X 1) You've disabled EDID detection, and its not clear why, however that is going to force the driver to rely entirely on built-in safe defaults and the content of your xorg.conf. 2) Due to the lack of EDID information, the driver is going on the values you provided in xorg.conf which are insufficient to run 1024x768@100: (WW) NVIDIA(0): Mode is rejected: HorizSync (68.7 kHz) out of range (WW) NVIDIA(0): (28.000-51.000 kHz). If you want to run with a 100Mhz mode, you should create a modeline, and stop disabling the EDID. Thanks, Lonni

03-21-07, 12:38 PM	#3
elgarfi Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5	Re: Issues with resolutions and refreshrates This is the current xorg.conf, even the 1024x768_75 mode isn't running, (which in fact runs on my 18" LCD). But the XServer always replies in the same way. He reponds to all refreshrates above 60Hz with the same "invalid" message. So let us assume that i want to run my X with 1024x768@75Hz. And to the EDID-thing... the Xorg.0.log tells me that the EDID can't be read correctly. greetz garfield

03-21-07, 12:41 PM	#4
netllama NVIDIA Corporation Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8,763	Re: Issues with resolutions and refreshrates Your 1024x768@75Hz mode is failing to validate for the reason I stated earlier. I need to see a bug report where the EDID isn't being read correctly.

03-21-07, 01:11 PM	#6
netllama NVIDIA Corporation Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 8,763	Re: Issues with resolutions and refreshrates (II) NVIDIA(0): Validating Mode "1024x768": (II) NVIDIA(0): 1024 x 768 @ 75 Hz (II) NVIDIA(0): Mode Source: X Server (II) NVIDIA(0): Pixel Clock : 78.80 MHz (II) NVIDIA(0): HRes, HSyncStart : 1024, 1040 (II) NVIDIA(0): HSyncEnd, HTotal : 1136, 1312 (II) NVIDIA(0): VRes, VSyncStart : 768, 769 (II) NVIDIA(0): VSyncEnd, VTotal : 772, 800 (II) NVIDIA(0): H/V Polarity : +/+ (WW) NVIDIA(0): Mode is rejected: HorizSync (60.1 kHz) out of range (WW) NVIDIA(0): (28.000-51.000 kHz). You still need to fix the ranges you specified in xorg.conf.

03-22-07, 05:31 AM	#7
elgarfi Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 5	Re: Issues with resolutions and refreshrates Oh, thank you very much. I've been struggling with this problem for one week, and the fix was that simple Thank you again, for your excellent work. greetings garfield