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Old 05-01-07, 11:08 AM   #37
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why? so they could loose more money?

isn't MS and Sony still loosing money on theirs? not sure about nintendo
Yup they would of course lose money in the beginning, but it *should* pay off in the end.
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Old 05-01-07, 11:11 AM   #38
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didn't amd also buy ati for the platform (chipset)?? thats what i heard a while ago.
Yes, I should've cited it in the reasons behind the buyout. My fault.

But it still doesn't make a lot of sense, considering the fact that NV's chipsets are (and more importantly were) considered quite better than ATI's counterparts...

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they wanted to complete better with integrated graphics and motherboard chipset.
which i find kind of funny that few months later they went to nvidia to make them a chipset for their dual dual core (fx) system.
Exactly what I meant with my previous sentence

See, this aquisition looks worse and worse everyday... For both companies.
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Old 05-01-07, 11:12 AM   #39
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Yup they would of course lose money in the beginning, but it *should* pay off in the end.
Except that they don't have the money to burnt. Take a look at the financials (not only the ones I posted, go look at the compelte ones), and you will see that the last thing AMD can afford now is to loose more money, especially in things that are not their core business.
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Old 05-01-07, 11:16 AM   #40
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I must admit...I'm not to thrilled about my setup. I'm going to wait about another month or so, and then I may be "joining the bandwagon"....
I was waiting for you to say something.
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Old 05-01-07, 11:37 AM   #41
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I must admit...I'm not to thrilled about my setup. I'm going to wait about another month or so, and then I may be "joining the bandwagon"....
Seriously? I am not shocked about wanting to join the bandwagon but your not pleased? What about the setup don't you like/doesn't come up to par?
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Old 05-01-07, 11:44 AM   #42
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Also, AMD really messed up by releasing AM2. It is not necessary at this point. AM2 offers nothing over 939 except for DDR2 support. AM2 would have been better suited for Athena/AthenaFX's release.

I'm really getting worried for AMD. I almost want to go out and dump all the money I can on some purely AMD- based systems, but I know that really wouldn't help 'em much simply cause I'm just one person. Now if I could just convince enough people to... *sigh*
A socket 939 6000+ cpu will be in my rig now if it was available. I really wish they stuck to the 939 platform as well.
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Old 05-01-07, 12:21 PM   #43
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Except that they don't have the money to burnt. Take a look at the financials (not only the ones I posted, go look at the compelte ones), and you will see that the last thing AMD can afford now is to loose more money, especially in things that are not their core business.
But you see the reason why ms and sony are losing so much money is because of the hardware; they don't make it themselves while amd doesn't have that problem. They would have to sell the processors combined with say a hybrid of the HD 2900 XT for less $ than they would get for them otherwise, but they wouldn't lose money because they're really not selling that many processors anyhow(and same goes for the hd 2900xt if the numbers we've seen stand correct).

Imagine a console with a quad core barcelona and an hd 2900xt! That would rock...
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Old 05-01-07, 12:24 PM   #44
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They've made a couple of really boneheaded moves back-to-back, so they have no one to blame but themselves.

- Ditching Socket 939 and going with AM2 which is identical aside from DDR2.
- 4x4
- Refusing to drop prices when Conroe/Kentsfield hit market

Let's hope they can rebound, but these guys haven't been playing it smart lately. Neither has ATI with their current release.
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4x4 with AM2, now that would have been cool. 2 x $65.00 3600+'s .
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Old 05-01-07, 12:54 PM   #46
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i don't think so: according to the 2.2bi financing terms AMD has no option but success.
http://www.streetinsider.com/Contrib...)/2155871.html

"The investment bankers were probably laughing over and over on this one. It is a true voodoo financing and one reminiscent of past blow-ups. We aren’t just trying to kick the company while it is down, but this one takes the cake. It really must be true that the more things change, the more they remain the same."
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