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Old 06-08-07, 02:02 PM   #13
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Default Re: I guess I'm a tad confused (regarding lossless audio)

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I thought maybe the codecs allowed for some more advanced way to encode the surround sound or something like that . . .just wondering if I am really losing out being 5.1 verses 7.1.
As far as I know, nothing is encoded at 7.1. Any 6.1 or 7.1 mixes are simply 5.1 sources emulated to be 6.1/7.1.

Personally, I think anything higher than 5.1 is a waste, but whatev.
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Old 06-08-07, 03:27 PM   #14
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LotR will be the first movies with discrete 7.1 I hear.

DTS ES Discrete also is "true" 6.1 but very few DVD's have it.

7.1 is the **** if you can use it effectively in your room. I apply Dolby PLIIx Cinema to all signals which matrices the back surrounds.
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Old 06-08-07, 03:48 PM   #15
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LotR will be the first movies with discrete 7.1 I hear.

DTS ES Discrete also is "true" 6.1 but very few DVD's have it.

7.1 is the **** if you can use it effectively in your room. I apply Dolby PLIIx Cinema to all signals which matrices the back surrounds.
But you don't anything, remember?
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But you don't anything, remember?
Yeah... I need PS3 fanboys to set me straight, they're real up on this whole HD thing!
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Default Re: I guess I'm a tad confused (regarding lossless audio)

Personally I am only interested in 6.1, and for gaming only. Surround is supposed to add ambiance to movies, and isn't really supposed to draw attention from what is being seen on the screen, otherwise it can be somewhat distracting. For that, 5.1 is sufficient IMO.

Games are a different story. With games you need to be able to use the surround speakers to be able to pinpoint the location of the sound, and it should have every bit of clarity in the rear as it does in the front. That said, IMO, it would probably be best to have a front left and right, with a center tweeter, and have the same configuration for the rear. While it could be beneficial to have some far rear speakers, you'd still want that tweeter in there somewhere IMO, pushing for an 8.1 setup if such a thing existed.

Unfortunately for us HT users, DDL doesn't do 6.1. Hopefully the Auzentech Prelude will include DTS support. (sounds like the developers are still undecided on that one)
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Old 06-15-07, 03:09 PM   #18
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Ever heard of dialogue normalization problems on the Dolby TrueHD audio tracks on HD DVD's released by WB so far?

Kinda surprised he didn't bring it up. Why would that be, Ruin?
Because Ruined actually knows what dialogue normalization is, as opposed to someone who is simply reading threads by Sony insiders and Blu-Ray fanboys on AVSFORUM then pretending to know something about home theater.

Ruined knows that it is not a "problem" and is actually a feature of Dolby Digital that has zero impact on the soundtrack other than the overall volume level. To give dialnorm some headroom the overall master reference volume level of a flick is generally reduced by about 4db. This has no impact on dynamic range and can be compensated for by, you guessed it, turning your receiver's volume knob up by 4db.

All dialnorm does is raise or lower the master volume of a flick dynamically so that you don't have to change your volume setting between HD DVDs. It can also be disabled on your HD DVD player/decoder if you don't like that feature.
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