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View Poll Results: What is your opinion on 3dm2k3?
It blows, it's totally biased and inaccurate. 5 50.00%
It's good at what it does, and it's pretty eye-candy. 5 50.00%
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Old 06-15-03, 12:12 PM   #1
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Question 3dm2003, revised opinion?

I just got done re-building Bubbles after me main HD crapped out yesterday, and one of me final tests is always a benchmark run. I really do find them to be a great way for me to make sure I didn't miss any tweaks or forget anything in the re-build, and me fave is still 3dm2k1se. When I got done re-installing/tweaking I ran it and scored within 20 points of me pre-HD dying score. (Oh, gratuitous 3dm2k1se compare URL )

But I'm starting to like 3dm2k3 too, it's just as consistant for me in scoring and now that I got the 9700 Pro it's actually pretty cool to watch too. Bubbles' 3dm2003 score is just about exactly the same pre-rebuild & after rebuild too.

So what is the current consensus on 3dm2003? Does it blow or is it good at what it does?
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Old 06-15-03, 12:28 PM   #2
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IMO, the only thing its good for is eye candy. Battle of Proxycon runs at 2-10FPS (2-4 most of the time) on my GeForce 3 Ti-200, but the DOOM III "Demo" runs at 16-30FPS average and it looks much better. It doesn't give you real game performance, it just lets you see all the pretty stuff your video card an generate.
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Old 06-15-03, 12:41 PM   #3
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Now I felt the exact same way when I had me own GF3 and first ran 3dm2k3 on it, and when I got the GF4 it really wasn't that much of an improvement...still all a slideshow.

But the 9700 runs it at over 30fps average for all me game tests and they LOOK good to me, Proxy-whatever is really sweet when it's fluid and it just seems to show me better what me card can do.

I'm really not trying to bait here, I'm wondering if anyone else started liking 3dm2003 better after they got a DX9 card I guess.
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Old 06-15-03, 01:35 PM   #4
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Worthless.

If Futuremark can be bullied into saying cheating is not cheating by lawyers, then it's completely useless as a benchmark.

That "different path for every card" thing is BULL****. I cannot express my disdain with Futuremark enough for even suggesting that at this stage of the 3D industry. Five years, okay, but now? Hell no.
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Worthless.

If Futuremark can be bullied into saying cheating is not cheating by lawyers, then it's completely useless as a benchmark.

That "different path for every card" thing is BULL****. I cannot express my disdain with Futuremark enough for even suggesting that at this stage of the 3D industry. Five years, okay, but now? Hell no.
I have a similar feeling...

the whole selling out deal has left a very sour taste in my mouth...

I still leave my stock 3dmark scores in my sig... more as a reference point than anything else.. I can't emphasize enough how rotten this whole benchmarking deal has gotten...

everyone taking potshots at everyone else while the TRUE guilty party/parties get away scot free... total BS..

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Old 06-15-03, 02:06 PM   #6
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as a side note... these IHV's should beware... super-saiyans can be quite destructive when royally p!ssed off

wot say Baron ?
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Old 06-15-03, 06:06 PM   #7
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You really should seperate your poll choice,

Biased and innacurrate should be 2 different options.


This poll is biased tho
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Now I felt the exact same way when I had me own GF3 and first ran 3dm2k3 on it, and when I got the GF4 it really wasn't that much of an improvement...still all a slideshow.

But the 9700 runs it at over 30fps average for all me game tests and they LOOK good to me, Proxy-whatever is really sweet when it's fluid and it just seems to show me better what me card can do.

I'm really not trying to bait here, I'm wondering if anyone else started liking 3dm2003 better after they got a DX9 card I guess.

In a short answer. No
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wot say Baron ?
Oh, well yeah. But only those who were actually intended to be made, not those who were made because of money
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Baron:
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6230


I think 3dmark03 is far better than 2001.
I dropped 3dmark01 for 3dmark03 as I am able to relate my overclocking results towards games a lot better than I could with 3dmark01.
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