169.04 and Rawhide - heads up and 2 questions...

valdis · 11-20-07, 08:51 AM

169.04 works for me on a Dell Latitude D820 laptop (chipset is a Quadro NVS 110M) in 64-bit using the Fedora 8 xorg-x11. However, Friday's Rawhide upped the xorg API number to 3 (in RPM xorg-x11-server-Xorg.x86_64 1.4.99.1-0.10.fc9), and the nvidia driver refuses to load due to the API mismatch (setting IgnoreABI results in a very quick and ugly crash of the X server - alt-sysrq still works, network still works, but black screen and alt-pf[1-7] don't work)

Question:

What's the timeline for an NVidia driver that knows about the API change?

(No rush, I'm just going to stick an 'exclude=xorg-x11-server-*' in my Yum config till something happens)

**AaronP** · 11-20-07, 11:55 AM

The ABI has not yet been finalized and until it has, I can't even speculate on when a driver that officially supports it can be released. In the meantime, you may be able to get away with -ignoreABI with 169.04 if you disable RenderAccel, but remember that -ignoreABI is not supported and not recommended.

valdis · 11-20-07, 05:54 PM

OK, I can live with that as an answer. After over a quarter century in this business, I'm *very* aware that writing code to spec is a whole lot like walking on water - both are a lot easier once it's frozen. It's something that will only matter to Rawhide users until Fedora 9 escapes, and that's a good 6 months away still, so no really big rush....

11-20-07, 08:51 AM	#1
valdis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 48	169.04 and Rawhide - heads up and 2 questions... 169.04 works for me on a Dell Latitude D820 laptop (chipset is a Quadro NVS 110M) in 64-bit using the Fedora 8 xorg-x11. However, Friday's Rawhide upped the xorg API number to 3 (in RPM xorg-x11-server-Xorg.x86_64 1.4.99.1-0.10.fc9), and the nvidia driver refuses to load due to the API mismatch (setting IgnoreABI results in a very quick and ugly crash of the X server - alt-sysrq still works, network still works, but black screen and alt-pf[1-7] don't work) Question: What's the timeline for an NVidia driver that knows about the API change? (No rush, I'm just going to stick an 'exclude=xorg-x11-server-*' in my Yum config till something happens)

11-20-07, 11:55 AM	#2
AaronP NVIDIA Corporation Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,487	Re: 169.04 and Rawhide - heads up and 2 questions... The ABI has not yet been finalized and until it has, I can't even speculate on when a driver that officially supports it can be released. In the meantime, you may be able to get away with -ignoreABI with 169.04 if you disable RenderAccel, but remember that -ignoreABI is not supported and not recommended.

11-20-07, 05:54 PM	#3
valdis Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 48	Re: 169.04 and Rawhide - heads up and 2 questions... OK, I can live with that as an answer. After over a quarter century in this business, I'm very aware that writing code to spec is a whole lot like walking on water - both are a lot easier once it's frozen. It's something that will only matter to Rawhide users until Fedora 9 escapes, and that's a good 6 months away still, so no really big rush....