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Old 01-13-08, 07:36 AM   #37
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Show me where this is true, please.
I generally agree with him with regards to general rushed encodes you find scattered online that are suppose to be "Demo's" of the codec, but for movie use done professionally by the studios, I find it hard to judge tbh.

I've seen all three of HDM codecs in action, and the only one that truly stands out is MPEG2 for being rediculously poor. (Most of the time)
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Old 01-13-08, 07:42 AM   #38
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I generally agree with him with regards to general rushed encodes you find scattered online that are suppose to be "Demo's" of the codec, but for movie use done professionally by the studios, I find it hard to judge tbh.

I've seen all three of HDM codecs in action, and the only one that truly stands out is MPEG2 for being rediculously poor. (Most of the time)
I agree Mpeg2 sucks when not given enough space... but Crank and even Kung Fu Hustle (to a lesser degree) still look pretty awesome (especially Crank which looks freaking amazing). I am not saying "GIMME MPEG2 4 EVA!", but I don't mind it on some titles so long as I get the same PQ for the most part.
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Old 01-13-08, 08:03 AM   #39
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Most online reviewers and really hifi savy people find MPEG4 AVC slightly superior to VC-1. If anybody wants a link or two I can try and dig them up but I consider this more common knowledge.
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Most online reviewers and really hifi savy people find MPEG4 AVC slightly superior to VC-1. If anybody wants a link or two I can try and dig them up but I consider this more common knowledge.
Just aslong as all future releases have it, then great.

Takes the piss paying 18 for a movie when they won't even use the best codecs available.

On a side note, does anyone know if 30 Days of Night is likely to be region free?
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Most online reviewers and really hifi savy people find MPEG4 AVC slightly superior to VC-1. If anybody wants a link or two I can try and dig them up but I consider this more common knowledge.
MPEG4 AVC and VC-1 are virtually the same thing at the bitrates they use on Blu-Ray and HD DVD. Given the same care, there will be no difference between the two. Some editors, such as the inept Dan Ramer of DVDFILE, have made erroneous conclusions on codecs based on completely different movies and genres; comparing the average video review scores of movies like Liar Liar, Daylight, and The Jerk to Pirates of the Carribean and Meet the Robinsons - then blaming the disparity on the codec instead of the master. Pretty laughable stuff, I would pay them no mind. Then of course enthusiasts on various websites who are anti-MS will preach AVC night and day because of their hatred for Microsoft; again, pay them no mind - we are not comparing companies, we are comparing codecs and encoders.

At very low (i.e. 56k modem) bitrates, though, MPEG4 AVC may have an advantage. But that is irrelevant in this discussion.

Another thing to consider is that the Microsoft professional VC-1 encoder is awesome, but it is the only VC-1 encoder that exists so there isn't much choice. There are various AVC encoders and some of them are worse than others. Only a select few come close to the MS VC-1 encoder.
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Very well put Ruined!
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